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SaluteYourChase t1_jeabluj wrote
Reply to comment by Skavau in Jennifer Aniston Says ‘A Whole Generation of Kids’ Finds ‘Friends’ Offensive: ‘You Have to Be Very Careful’ With Comedy Now by Neo2199
All I can say is look up some of your favorite "dumb" controversies over the past decade or so. Tan suit Obama? Said by Sean Hannity once. Starbucks coffee cups not having snowflakes? Said by literally 1 random person. Seeing Red shouldve focused on 9/11? 1 person on YouTube that didn't even really have many subscribers. We had an entire week it felt like during the pandemic discussing if Topanga's husband found shrimp tails in his cereal. That's the world we live in with social media, little things blow up.
And if you are going to ignore that social media blows up unpopular opinions, you can't honestly accept that there were less offended people back in the day. That claim should be equally dismissed
SaluteYourChase t1_jea8llo wrote
Reply to comment by Skavau in Jennifer Aniston Says ‘A Whole Generation of Kids’ Finds ‘Friends’ Offensive: ‘You Have to Be Very Careful’ With Comedy Now by Neo2199
I'm saying about the same number of people are taking offense today vs then, the only difference is social media. Some may discuss how opinions have changed and why things said then may not be popular opinions now, but thats not taking offense, that's just discussing friends from a modern lens.
SaluteYourChase t1_jea7201 wrote
Reply to comment by Skavau in Jennifer Aniston Says ‘A Whole Generation of Kids’ Finds ‘Friends’ Offensive: ‘You Have to Be Very Careful’ With Comedy Now by Neo2199
Its still a small amount of people. We just hear it more because with social media you can hear the opinions of a random person you've never met and isn't famous in any way. A lot of these "people find it offensive now" is like 5 people on Twitter finding it offensive and 10,000 others dunking on them for it. Back in the day, 5 random people find it offensive, and the extent that their opinion travels is a hearty debate with friends at a dinner party. Now it travels the world
SaluteYourChase t1_je9s6ap wrote
Reply to comment by Skavau in Jennifer Aniston Says ‘A Whole Generation of Kids’ Finds ‘Friends’ Offensive: ‘You Have to Be Very Careful’ With Comedy Now by Neo2199
I'm sure some did hate the constant trans jokes at times, they just didn't have social media be as big of a platform to share.
But thats not the point. The person said nobody found it offensive back then. I provided people who found it offensive. They were wrong. We weren't talking what groups found it offensive
SaluteYourChase t1_je7vrt4 wrote
Reply to comment by rolandjack77 in Jennifer Aniston Says ‘A Whole Generation of Kids’ Finds ‘Friends’ Offensive: ‘You Have to Be Very Careful’ With Comedy Now by Neo2199
The parent television council was huge in the 90s and early 2000s, and friends was among one of its favorites to hate
SaluteYourChase t1_je7vkcg wrote
Reply to comment by Created_By_InGen in Jennifer Aniston Says ‘A Whole Generation of Kids’ Finds ‘Friends’ Offensive: ‘You Have to Be Very Careful’ With Comedy Now by Neo2199
Honestly I think the vast majority of those who dont like it just finds it boring. I won't say nobody finds it offensive or that there isn't stuff that is offensive about it, but I think the vast majority doesn't just doesn't like it.
I think what the issue is that on social media everyone's comments can be elevated. 1 person is offended and there's 10,000 telling them how dumb they are. Then 50 articles are written about how it's a controversy and cancel culture and bullshit, and that spawns more debate and people calling it stupid. If that happened in the 90s, you just ignored the guy ranting and that was the end. If a big enough group came together like the parent television council, it would gain some media attention, but not even close to what we get now when 1 person complains online
Plus I'll add that it's so easy to blow it out of proportion too. Criticizing the show with a modern lens can be useful to identify what things have changed and maybe what things will change for the future. Saying the trans jokes for example are bad doesn't mean the show is being "cancelled" it just means it isn't a thing that should continue. But you take someone who doesn't understand that nuance or doesn't want to, and they can strip it away and argue against it like people are protesting outside the WBD headquarters demanding for it to be removed and the masters deleted
SaluteYourChase t1_je2628p wrote
Reply to comment by mrgreyeyes in 'Wizards of Waverly Place' producer says Selena Gomez's character was meant to be LGBTQ, but they couldn't be explicit about it: 'We got as close as we could' by flowerhoney10
I get that, but I want to say that the arc with Stevie feels like they should be a couple. There's this weird whirlwind romance type feel to it
SaluteYourChase t1_jeacr2r wrote
Reply to comment by Skavau in Jennifer Aniston Says ‘A Whole Generation of Kids’ Finds ‘Friends’ Offensive: ‘You Have to Be Very Careful’ With Comedy Now by Neo2199
Of course I don't. But "I'm offended friends is a product of its time" is not a commonly held opinion. You can acknowledge that social attitudes have changed without being upset that the show was made. Hell you can even enjoy the show but ultimately recognize that this isn't the current opinion.
I love boy meets world. There's a lot of fun stuff that holds up just as good as when it was made. Theres a lot of stuff that is a product of its time. I listen to the rewatch pod the cast does. They do a great job of breaking down the show, and they're not really ever offended by it. There's a very powerful scene in season 1 where a racial slur is used. Probably wouldn't be accepted today. They questioned why looking back that one was used when another one was cut earlier in the episode. But they weren't offended and they acknowledge it was a powerful scene. Just that it wouldn't be made today