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hsdad t1_jdjrdd5 wrote

This is a hot take. I get karma tanked every time this comes up. Carol - The Walking Dead

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Sufficient_Creme6961 t1_jdjrg94 wrote

Bad like a bad person or didn’t belong on the show because they made it worse?

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Stonewalled89 t1_jdjrz1l wrote

Gina in Brooklyn Nine Nine. I absolutely despised that character

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bravetailor t1_jdjs3c0 wrote

Like it or not, Barney was a big part of the show's success. The fact that he was an ass, or in today's popular term, 'problematic', WAS a big part of his original appeal.

Unless of course you are in fact talking about Ted lol.

Now see, for me I think of "bad" characters as being more in the line of this:

Seven in Married With Children

Scott in 90210

Susan in Seinfeld

Basically characters that never took off or fit in with the show's tone.

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Benjamin_Grimm t1_jdjsbjb wrote

Tom Haverford on Parks and Recreation. Too creepy to be sympathetic.

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visitorzeta t1_jdjse7u wrote

Andy in The Office = I don't know what it is about him, I think it may have to do specifically with Ed Helms' performance, but he feels so forced and out of place. His humor never really felt organic in the show.

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CumBobDirtyPants t1_jdjt4o6 wrote

Ellstin Limehouse from Justified. Why did people give him their money to take care of? He double-crosses literally everyone. I skip over his parts when I rewatch. Justified was such a well-written show, too, with great acting, so he sticks out like a sore thumb.

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throwtheclownaway20 t1_jdjt5lw wrote

Replying to Sufficient_Creme6961 (#2,343,476)

Barney was a dick, but he was very honest about the fact that he was not interested in any commitment and didn't have any great respect for the women who slept with him. That episode where he takes Lily on a tour of his place to show all the ways it's actively hostile to women is some of the best character-building in TV history.

Ted, OTOH, was basically a "nice guy" (read: incel) who just happened to have enough self-awareness to groom himself, hold a conversation, etc. without being instantly repellant to women. Hell, the entire show is literally built around his older self going on this long, drawn-out yarn to his kids that ultimately ends with, "So that's how I met your mom... anyway, she's dead now, so I'm gonna go back banging your Aunt Robin again since she was the woman I really loved this whole time."

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HappyGilOHMYGOD t1_jdjvr68 wrote

Friday Night Lights - Tyra

Dexter - Lyla

Game of Thrones - Shay

Merlin - Morgause

LOST - Michael

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throwtheclownaway20 t1_jdk73gc wrote

Replying to james_carr9876 (#2,344,859)

>Am I the only person who thinks Ted is a great character?

Probably. He's flawed, but nothing about him is interesting to me. I was a "nice guy" when I was younger and I've seen thousands more in my years online, so nothing about those guys who are outwardly milquetoast but secretly shitty is compelling at all. Barney was more interesting, because it turns out that his misogyny was basically a trauma response.

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unitedfan6191 t1_jdk7mfq wrote

Dawson Leery after like season 4 of Dawson’s Creek.

He started as a cliched and innocent hopeless romantic with aspirations to be a filmmaker but then at a certain point devolved into a somewhat jealous, bitter, angry, possessive person who also decides to run away from responsibility and commitments when it gets too tough and sometimes blames others. I don’t want this to sound too harsh as I would want to give him the benefit of the doubt and he was a teenager who made mistakes and there are reasons for a lot of his behavior, but I think as a character they kinda dropped the ball with him towards the end.

Jack Bauer on 24.

His defense in the name of national security for his barbaric torture and threatening innocents with violence and death if they didn’t so what he says became tired and a crutch after a while and his bad behavior couldn’t possibly be justified after a while. I was willing to have sympathy for him after loved ones either died or left him, but it doesn’t give him the right to point a gun at an innocent person and tell them he will kill them if they don’t do exactly as he says. He’s also displayed hypocritical behavior when he judges and criticizes people for doing similar things to what he’s done which makes him a little tired and unlikable for me after a while.

Karen Walker on Will & Grace, like The Todd snd Bulldog, was intentionally written that way but was still very unlikable even though I could still kinda understand her behavior to a point when you look deeper and realize why she acts the way she does and she displays great heart sometimes.

Others:

Ross on Friends for the obvious reasons anyone familiar with the show already knows. Rachel to a degree as well, but I think Ross’ list of douchey behavior takes the proverbial cake.

The Todd on Scrubs was a total creep and a perverted human being, but he was intended to be that way and he was only a side character.

The crew on Seinfeld in the latter years especially were largely horrible human beings.

Ryan Howard on The Office was a largely appalling human being, although he looked great in a fedora.

Bob “Bulldog” Briscoe, like The Todd on Scrubs, was a lawsuit waiting to happen on Frasier and a chauvinistic and openly offensive person like him couldn’t exist in real life.

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RayPingHeaux t1_jdkbjbn wrote

i dont lnow why it bugs me to see a thread with 30 plus comments but zero likes

so heres a like

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Goondal t1_jdl5797 wrote

The half sister and her son on Shameless

Moira Kelly on The West Wing

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Goondal t1_jdl5h66 wrote

Replying to HappyGilOHMYGOD (#2,344,011)

Disagree on Tyra. They needed a character that did not buy in to all the bullshit. The problem with her was the stupid murder plot and they did keep her too long (which they did with Riggins too)

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StarChild413 t1_jdl8cuj wrote

Charlie from Black-Ish, he's kind of a little too manic and sometimes they make him seem a little too flat by riding too hard on the jokes of him being a deadbeat dad and feeling semi-joking schadenfreude at Dre's marriage troubles because he thinks Bow's hot

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ozmega t1_jdlcpu2 wrote

Replying to visitorzeta (#2,343,595)

more like season 9 in general, pretty much everything about that season sucks.

fun story, reddit kept pushing the white lotus as a great show, and i ended up watching a whole season of the kid from season 9 acting like andy bernard, the moment he showed the fucking cornell hat i finally said "omfg, its pete" lol, that whole erin pete andy storyline was some of the worst ways to send off a good show.

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Dostus-dilih t1_jdlpjqa wrote

Replying to bravetailor (#2,346,569)

I think that's kind of the point. He omits A LOT from the story he's telling and sometimes even calls attention to it. There was one episode where they were trying to quit smoking where he goes "yeah none of us quit until events that are around the final season" but he never mentions they were smoking in any episode before or since despite always hanging out in a bar.

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Nacknack26 t1_jdlwlbk wrote

Replying to unitedfan6191 (#2,345,391)

I thought Dawson was so much worse in earlier seasons. I get that he was a teenager, but he was so awful and hard too root for, especially in season 3 with the whole love triangle. But I'm biased, since i really liked Pacey.

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theyusedthelamppost t1_jdmqld1 wrote

Juliana Crane got me to stop watching Man in the High Castle despite the fact that I loved just about every other character

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MercilessShadow t1_jdqqef8 wrote

Matt Donovan in The Vampire Diaries. The only thing he does is complain about everything. On rewatches I just skip his scenes and it makes the show 10x better

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