Artistic-Toe-8803 t1_je11utz wrote on March 28, 2023 at 5:19 PM

Reply to comment by TheOtherUprising in Billions Poised to End With Season 7 at Showtime, Co-Star Dan Soder Reveals by DemiFiendRSA

I keep hearing this about Showtime, but Ive never watched a Showtime series afaik. What other shows have they done this with?

JustAboutAlright t1_je12haf wrote on March 28, 2023 at 5:23 PM

Almost all of their hits - Billions, Homeland, Dexter, Californication, Ray Donovan (though I don’t think it’s as egregious).

TheOtherUprising t1_je135sf wrote on March 28, 2023 at 5:27 PM

Weeds and Shameless as well.

buhlakay t1_je1f8tz wrote on March 28, 2023 at 6:42 PM

God how could I forget about Weeds. That show was so great...until it wasn't

RealJohnGillman t1_je5q7xf wrote on March 29, 2023 at 4:34 PM

It was interesting how they would consistently upend the premise of the series with everyone except the protagonist experiencing lasting consequences for their actions.

buhlakay t1_je6fhnp wrote on March 29, 2023 at 7:14 PM

It truly was incredible how they took this incredibly likable and sympathetic protagonist and turned her into the worst character in the show by the end. And not in an engaging or interesting way. Man.

JustAboutAlright t1_je13jxc wrote on March 28, 2023 at 5:30 PM

Yep forgot those two but definitely fit the list.

Mattyzooks t1_je14ba1 wrote on March 28, 2023 at 5:34 PM

Meanwhile, the one Showtime show I want a continuation of seems extremely unlikely: Twin Peaks The Return.

MissDiem t1_je59xp4 wrote on March 29, 2023 at 2:49 PM

It's just a groupthink dogma that everyone has to announce as their own revolutionary hot take.

Personally, I've enjoyed most of the shows that edgelords can't wait to pitchfork for demise. And the people who profess to hate them, I notice they crave each new episode... just to shit on something they clearly are addicted to.

They do it to anything good. They did it to The Sopranos in season 1, and everything since.

It goes in tandem with them cheering when a good show ends prematurely. You'll be able to watch that play out in real time this month as Succession ends after just 4 seasons, with no appreciable waning of quality.

It's like someone comes to a buffet, drools over every dish, stuffs themselves deliriously with great food, then later says none of it was any good.

They'll refuse to concede that say, a fifth season of Succession would still be one of the best seasons of viewing imaginable. Their manufactured hate is often debunked. Many of the favorite plots and highlights of series come after the date the edgelord edict tries to claim there was no worth. Great episodes and seasons followed Henry Blake's departure, Michael Scott's departure, Fia Gallagher's departure. Haters of Dexter still salivated and enjoyed every minute while they watched New Blood, then rushed online to complain the pizza they just gorged was supposedly unappealing.

Sometimes it's fear or depression manifesting as hate; they idolize a given actor and can't process their departure from a show. Sometimes it's darker, like a character is introduced that their real world peer group dictates much be hated, ie Taylor on Billions.

It's such an odd, self-hate-based phenomenon. I'll enjoy the upcoming seasons of Succession and Billions, and won't feel a compunction to scream they need to be killed off. And for shows I truly don't enjoy, I simply don't watch them. I don't need to actively try to end them for others who do still like them. If Grey's Anatomy wants to keep on going, I'm happy for those fans that enjoy it, even if I don't. Other shows I've noped out of you won't see me actively trying to end. Why not let those who enjoy it continue to enjoy it?

I almost wish there was some kind of consequence for the bloodlust, like if you rush to declare some show has jumped the shark, that should come with a way to make sure you're not allowed to quietly enjoy the subsequent episodes or seasons.