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Sherlockian_Whimsy t1_itlform wrote

My premiere problem with HoD season one compared to GoT season one is this:

At the conclusion of the first season of GoT I felt I knew a number of characters. I was interested in their fates and deeply invested in the conflicts they were part of.

At the conclusion of season one of HoD? Not so much. I mean, take just the young characters. Sansa, Arya, and Joffrey...heck, even Bran were vibrantly detailed by the end of the first season. Ancillary characters like Theon and Littlefinger were sharply drawn. The same just hasn't been true with HoD, and because of that the world hasn't been nearly as sharply realized.

Will I be back for season two? You bet, but HoD has not flown near the level of quality the first season of GoT did.

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PorkshireTerrier t1_itlutk4 wrote

this is a gtreat tool/measure to gauge worldbuilding and character dev

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half of the side characcters had 30 seconds or were played for laughs, ie daddy strong, the lannister goof, the loyal dead guy on the council, pretty much all the kids except aemond and aegon.

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Radulno t1_itmkj21 wrote

> this is a gtreat tool/measure to gauge worldbuilding and character dev

Not really it's trying to compare a show with the standard for another show. It's not the same type of story and by the narrative itself, it had to advance to the point of the real story (which started in E9 really)

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PorkshireTerrier t1_itmzkr1 wrote

Idk I get that they’re different but it’s still an entire season.

Even in shows like Parks n Rec, which I love, I give people a heads up that season 1 is a slow start w an unlikeable protag.

Regardless of how good the show gets, and how well they develop characters - at the end of 10ish hours of tv, it’s possible you don’t really connect w any of their characters , bc they’re rushed.

Also, often the show doesn’t follow the logic, worldbuilding and stakes it tries to establish.

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Jamaz t1_itobcih wrote

I feel Harwin Strong should have had some foreshadowing or at least a bit of screen time before the time skip just so the audience could know he existed. We just have to accept Rhaenyra was willing to risk her claim and have 3 kids with this random dude that just showed up.

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SecretDracula t1_itna6wi wrote

The big problem with HotD's characters is that they have crappy motivation. When the show started, they all kinda sorta wanna be king in a vague, distant way, but they have zero immediate goals.

Compare that to GoT ep 1 where almost every character has a strong immediate, personal goal. And if they didn't have one is ep 1, they got one by ep 2.

And there were mysteries everywhere in GoT that had you begging to know more. HotD has no mysteries at all. None!

There are no white walkers, no "who tried to kill Bran?", no "who killed Jon Arryn?", no unknown schemers in the castle basement, no question of Jon Snow's parentage.

They just don't seem to "get" what made GoT good.

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ruxi23 t1_itnqtyd wrote

Exactly. I think out of all adult and young characters we really only know like 5 of them and even them have been either inconsistent, one note or passive or Viserys .The rest barely got anything. At this point it feels more like a plot driven show imo to get to the mentioned moments in the dance/lead up to it than a chracter driven drama and I put this on the writers not being able to fill in the gaps with a lot of new scenes and small inside the episode arcs btw the more significant moments.

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