[deleted] t1_iundu0l wrote
Or, and I know this might sound like crazy talk, it's just badly written.
Petrichor02 t1_iungh8c wrote
Always a possibility, but they have been saying in interviews constantly that there's a reason for the continuity not lining up and that they want to respect the original show's continuity. Doesn't mean the show is immune to bad writing, but a good number of the continuity issues are probably at least partly intentional.
[deleted] t1_iuory6q wrote
There's no easier way to get the fans to stay with it, than those kind of press sentences.
TheSeventhAnimorph t1_iupvwoh wrote
If not for Dean narrating from the "future," part of it could have just been that someone went back in time and changed things, with the divergence point being someone giving John the note and key that he was given in the first episode.
dragonmp93 t1_iuns2lb wrote
I mean, it's a supernatural spin-off on the CW.
KnotSoSalty t1_iuootj0 wrote
It’s really amazing the lengths people will go through to justify their favorite piece of pop culture being shiny and perfect.
Case in point: “making the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs” is obviously just a goof in the SW script that nobody noticed. It’s like running a race in under 12 miles, it makes no sense. But there are a million explanations out there about why “no actually your wrong because…”
biiirdmaaan t1_iuowbg7 wrote
It's not really people deluding themselves so much as apologetics being fun. The No-Prize is the single greatest thing Marvel introduced into pop culture. If you can figure out an in-universe explanation for a writing goof, go for it.
RepresentativeZombie t1_iuoqe0q wrote
And one of them is now canon, because they used the finale of the Han Solo prequel movie to explain that plot hole!
CapnSmite t1_iupjzqu wrote
Not even the finale. That was, like, two-thirds of the way through.
RepresentativeZombie t1_iupnrsv wrote
Oh right, the actual finale was lame though. The Kessel Run and the train scene were easily the best parts of the movie
PerfectZeong t1_iusffe9 wrote
The shooting script is really clear that Han is just making shit up because it sounds good. No other explanation was needed because its not a goof, Han solo is a liar and a bullshitter
GuyKopski t1_iuott2b wrote
That wasn't a goof, people just misunderstood the scene. Han isn't bragging about his ship, he's testing Luke and Obi-Wan to see if they know anything about space travel (because they'll be easier to swindle if they don't).
If you watch Obi-Wan you can tell he sees straight through it. The shooting script actually includes the line "Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation."
But people took Han's claim at face value for some reason until the Kessel Run being distance-based became an actual thing.
alano134 t1_iuovo8z wrote
You just...did the thing he mentioned...
GuyKopski t1_iuovvkb wrote
Because he's wrong!
IcyFlounder1204 t1_iuowu4g wrote
Explain the line in the script then
L-System t1_iupjhub wrote
The fact that he had the bring up the script. Something the audience isn't supposed to read, to justify a goof...
IcyFlounder1204 t1_iupw03q wrote
You don't have to read it. You can see Obi-Wan's reaction in the movie. People just conveniently ignore that part.
L-System t1_iupycbf wrote
The reaction can be to his boast alone, doesn't explain it.
PerfectZeong t1_iusg3ho wrote
It's in the shooting script for a new hope, it's not inventing an explanation the explanation is obvious.
KnotSoSalty t1_iup7xha wrote
First, acting cues in scripts are cannon now?
Second, “Ben reacts to Solo’s stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation.” Could just as well refer to Solo’s line taken at face value rather than as an elaborate test.
Third, if it was written as an elaborate test it’s one the audience could only understand if they knew what a parsec was. Instead it went over most peoples heads.
Forth, a Parsec is a unit of length equal to the radius of Earth’s orbit. Which is a very strange unit of measurement for a galaxy far far away.
1Land_1Keep t1_iupc4x1 wrote
>Forth, a Parsec is a unit of length equal to the radius of Earth’s orbit. Which is a very strange unit of measurement for a galaxy far far away.
"He a little confused, but he got the spirit."
You're describing Astronomical Units which, while they are used to define a Parsec, are not the same thing.
KnotSoSalty t1_iuphn42 wrote
Yep, my bad, the radius of the earths orbit is an AU.
Parsec still is related to the radius of the earth’s orbit however.
GuyKopski t1_iupcfr6 wrote
Doesn't really matter if the cue itself is canon, because Obi-Wan's reaction is. I only brought up the cue to show that, even in the 70s when the movie was being written, the intent of the scene was that Han was speaking nonsense.
It is kinda weird that they use Parsec specifically, but Parsecs are a thing that exist in Star Wars (Padme uses the same word in AotC, referring to a distance). That's also a different problem from the one you originally outlined (that Han uses a measurement of distance instead of time).
But I basically just see it as translation convention. The characters use an Earth-based word because the film has them speaking in an Earth-based language, even though the actual in-universe language of Star Wars is Galactic Basic, not English.
violue t1_iuorvzf wrote
It's possible but the showrunner is one of the few SPN writers that actually watched the whole show and gave a shit about canon/character continuity.
Petrichor02 t1_iuovoch wrote
This is the same writer who had a character go to heaven and then get resurrected by "Ezekiel" while heaven was locked down and inaccessible to souls or angels. He's definitely better about canon than a bunch of the Supernatural writers, but he's messed up before. (That said, I'm among those who think the canon departures are going to be at least mostly intentional, though I wouldn't be shocked if something slips by.)
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