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Radulno t1_ixu2smf wrote

Reply to comment by kupo88 in Was the fox buyout worth it for Disney? by CardiologistOwn5612

Unlike what Reddit claims, this has absolutely no value on why they made this deal. If they didn't have that, they would have done exactly the same thing.

EDIT : people don't seem to understand what I mean, thought it was obvious. Of course Disney knew they had it and evaluated it. It wasn't the incentive behind the acquisition and they would have done the same thing even if they didn't have the rights (hell a lot of theories, though not confirmed, were saying they would have gotten the rights back even without acquiring it themselves)

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whensmahvelFGC t1_ixu3qgn wrote

>this has absolutely no value on why they made this deal

This is reddit armchair entrepreneurism at it's absolute finest. The amount of cash Disney stands to make off of Fox-Marvel properties was ABSOLUTELY calculated into a deal of this size. That's one guy with a spreadsheet.

Someone did the fucking math, come on now. What a joke.

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KumagawaUshio t1_ixu69l1 wrote

Which shows you don't know shit.

Theatrical marvel is good for Iger's ego but basically couch cushion change to the bottom line.

Disney makes the real money with the Theme Parks and ESPN cable affiliate fees.

Disney vastly overpaid for 21st Century Fox and has nearly 4 years later little to show for it.

It's new content that drives subscribers to streaming services not old catalogue content.

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NotTroy t1_ixu6qul wrote

Yes, and now they have a VAST array of incredibly popular Fox properties to make new content with, and the merchandising that comes with it, for the rest of time.

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KumagawaUshio t1_ixu8mwr wrote

What incredibly popular 21st Century Fox properties?

Looking at $100+ million domestic grossing 20th Century Fox films since 2008

Disney already bought Star Wars and Marvel.

Independence Day 2 crashed and burned.

The Taken, Die Hard, Alien and Predator franchises have been milked to death.

Blue Sky got shutdown.

Dreamworks animations distribution deal ended, and they got bought by Universal.

The Alvinn and the Chipmunks licence ended and is up for sale (Paramount is the expected buyer).

That leaves Avatar, Planet of the Apes and Night at the Museum.

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whensmahvelFGC t1_ixu7s4g wrote

You realize I'm literally just saying someone did the math on the value of those properties, right?

You can't seriously tell me you think they just ignored it and didn't crunch the numbers. Wake up.

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TheSeventhAnimorph t1_ixu4020 wrote

I mean, it obviously didn't have "absolutely no value," but sure, I definitely agree that it would only have been a very small part of the reason for it in comparison to other factors. And sure, they would have probably done it regardless, but the purchase amount would still likely have been at least a bit different.

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kupo88 t1_ixu2y65 wrote

My comment had nothing to do with "what Reddit claims". I was simply adding my opinion, since big corporations these days tend to just buy out smaller companies who have what they want. Fox had Marvel properties and Disney wanted them so they bought Fox.

fin.

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Radulno t1_ixu3iwh wrote

> Fox had Marvel properties and Disney wanted them so they bought Fox.

Except it's wrong, Disney didn't buy Fox for a few Marvel right, that would be a disastrous purchase to pay 71 billions for that. They bought it for the whole studios and the catalogue of movies/TV they got to launch their streaming service and because Fox was selling anyway and they'd prefer to be the ones to get it. It also wasn't a big company buying a small one. Fox was almost as big as Disney.

As I said, the purchase would have been made exactly the same if Fox didn't have Marvel rights

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kupo88 t1_ixu3vrs wrote

I understand what you're saying, but everything I'm saying is my opinion on the primary reason for their purchase. I was obviously not in the room when the decision was made so all I can provide are my thoughts and opinions.

If people's thoughts and opinions aren't what you're looking for I don't understand why you brought this to Reddit.

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blacktarmin t1_ixucq58 wrote

They bought Fox because they were launching a streaming service and wanted more content for it. Bob Iger said as much.

The primary reason for the acquisition was not Fox's Marvel properties.

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throwtheclownaway20 t1_ixu63t4 wrote

Bullshit, LOL...do you think Disney just had no idea how many people had been clamoring for a decade for Marvel to be able to get those properties back? Of course they did. They don't give a fuck about narrative completion or anything like that, but they know money. If what you're saying is true, they never would have gotten to the table with Sony to make a Spider-Man deal.

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