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nurdboy42 t1_ixiz5nh wrote

It’s funny how this sub is singing this shows praises when half a year ago everyone here was like “Who asked for this show,” “Why does anyone care about Mon Mothma,” and repeating the same tired RLM references over and over.

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sixsamurai t1_ixj9gsv wrote

Between Andor and Peacemaker, it's been a great year for shows nobody asked for being unexpectedly awesome

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BretOne t1_ixjr94j wrote

I was like this with both Andor and House of the Dragon, they both shut me up by just being high quality with great writing.

I was also like this with Rings of Power, I got this one right at least.

On the other hand, I was hyped for Boba Fett and Kenobi and it blew up on the launch pad. Terrible writing, shody craftsmanship, the only salvageable parts are the Mando episodes in BoBF and the last Vader/Kenobi duel.

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ERSTF t1_ixljkcv wrote

Andor and HOTD are two shows that had no right to be this good. Andor blew me away. The level Gilroy brought to Star Wars is amazing. I feel sorry for Favreau... there is nothing that will come close to Andor

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QuebraRegra t1_ixqxxin wrote

^ nailed it.

..and this is going to be a real problem going forward. If I were Favereau, or Filoni, I'd be VERY careful about what I was producing going forward.

At this point, I think Gilroy has to take the SW lead for all productions going forward.

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ERSTF t1_ixr0it6 wrote

I never liked The Mandalorian. To me it was too damn simple. No plot, just cameos galore and "quest of the week" storytelling. I watched one episode of Boba Fett and three of Kenobi. I was done with Star Wars Disney. Gilroy made me believe again. There is no way Favreau or Filoni have this level of sophistication or creativity. We have been spoiled by Gilroy.

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QuebraRegra t1_ixr31wn wrote

fully agreed... The other productions are hot garbage in descending order.

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ERSTF t1_ixr7sgp wrote

Fully agreed. We have seen what Star Wars can be. There's no going back

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spyson t1_ixkk9z6 wrote

Rings of Power unfortunately had the biggest hill to climb due to Amazon only having rights to the appendix

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QuebraRegra t1_ixqy1ii wrote

I cannot fathom the quality of Andor, versus RoP, which basically does EVERYTHING wrong.

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Traece t1_ixklvzo wrote

Local Redditor surprised that people were cynical about a new project in a well-known IP and expecting it to be bad.

Not sure what RLM has to do with any of that, unless RLM somehow invented the idea of milking franchises and often doing so poorly. Especially strange to try and shoehorn them into this as if they're not likely to say positive things about Andor for the same reason they said positive things about Mandalorian.

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QuebraRegra t1_ixqxlxg wrote

TBH, the show isn't even about Mon, or even Andor. Naming it Andor was a bit of a misnomer.

So many other pivotal characters. Should have been called "REBELLION" or some such.

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Takseen t1_ixu6d7r wrote

Bit unfair to Andor. He's the catalyst for a lot of the events in the show. He leads the corpos to Ferrix, where the failed raid helps radicalize them. attracts Axis' attention and impresses him enough to try to expose himself and hire Andor for the heist, which likely would have failed without his help. The heist leads to an Imperial crackdown and more imperial presence on Ferrix, then the fight there.

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QuebraRegra t1_ixulwd8 wrote

look, I luv Diego Luna since Vampires Los Muertos, but lets be honest, he get's overshadowed in this series :)

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eusername0 t1_iy2jjbx wrote

Which is a good thing too. The casting was 100% on point. From the always excellent Stellan Skarksgard, Andy Serkis in a rare (but moving nonetheless) non-mocap appearance, Genevieve O'Reilly being given her time in the spotlight as Mon Mothma 20 years after her initial casting, Fiona Shaw, to the supporting cast in every episode. I don't think anyone was miscast here and it made for an excellent show.

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QuebraRegra t1_iyag73e wrote

Stellan Skarksgard... I know the guy is a great actor, but he's creepy AF since I saw him in girl with the Dragon tattoo. I think I'd be afraid to be alone in a room with him. Great actor.

yer right, they are all on point.. I was actually shocked they got Forrest Whittaker to reprise his role. Looking back now, they probably called him up and said, "hey how would you like to play Saw again in the greatest SW production ever made.. We're sparing no expense, and going all out on this.."

I don't favor the Mon Mothma side of the story, but there's no denying the quality of the acting and writing. That last scene in the car where she knows she's being monitored.

For the record, I might be the only guy who was disappointed when they killed Andy Serkis in Black Panther.. great character :)

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