Jiffyyy t1_iwsykw9 wrote
Reply to comment by King_Allant in Nielsen Streaming Top 10: ‘House of the Dragon’ Crosses 1 Billion Minutes Viewed in Finale Week by MarvelsGrantMan136
the season is over, what would these numbers really indicate?
King_Allant t1_iwtap7p wrote
It means that the millionth show about Dahmer has maintained its popularity better than the most expensive blockbuster series of all time that ended almost a month later.
Thongs0ng t1_iwtewmr wrote
ROP was supposed to the show that put Amazon Studios on the map, their bid for cultural relevance that HBO/Netflix got with Game of Thrones, Euphoria, Stranger Things, the Dahmer show I guess, etc.
The numbers, amongst every other indicator, imply that it did….adequately. Ok. Decent. Solid even. But it’s not the Next Big Show that Everyone Is Talking About.
Corteaux81 t1_iwu6a9a wrote
Honestly it did decent because of the IP. The actual show was dogshit.
wildwalrusaur t1_iwuvpj9 wrote
>ROP was supposed to the show that put Amazon Studios on the map, their bid for cultural relevance that HBO/Netflix got with Game of Thrones, Euphoria, Stranger Things, the Dahmer show I guess
They shouldn't have shortened and canceled The Expanse then
Easily the best thing they've made. And it had lot of chatter even amongst people I haven't known to watch scifi generally.
Astrosaurus42 t1_iwvlx1h wrote
Damn I miss The Expanse.
Perfect_Anteater5810 t1_iwvzhu0 wrote
Same, the last 3 books of the series where the best, too bad the 5 and 6th season adaptations were kinda meh, so it sealed the deal on not adapting them, woulda loved to see the Tempest in its full glory.
RapsFanMike t1_iww6rhl wrote
Why can’t it still do that? It’s only season 1
skilledinceptor t1_iwuizeh wrote
I was under the impression that the Boys did it for Amazon.
Flynn58 t1_iwtftk5 wrote
None of those shows put HBO or Netflix on the map. HBO was put on the map by Oz and The Wire, and Netflix was put on the map by House of Cards and Orange is the New Black. HBO and Netflix were already household names for premier television by the time Game of Thrones and Stranger Things came out, let alone Euphoria and Dahmer.
GenericAustin t1_iwtgaru wrote
Game of Thrones is another level of popularity compared to the wire, and Stranger Things is another level of popularity compared to House of Cards or Orange is the New Black. That is what Amazon was looking for, the next Game of Thrones
GarlVinland4Astrea t1_iwv5az8 wrote
If you think HBO wasn’t a massively well known household name years before GoT existed you are out of your mind. Also ROP was the biggest Amazon show ever
GenericAustin t1_iwv9emd wrote
That is not what I said, I said Game of Thrones is way more popular than all their other shows, I didn't say those other shows weren't popular.
GarlVinland4Astrea t1_iwvaqkp wrote
Only the last two seasons were getting better ratings than peak Sopranos. That’s the thing. It went on longer so it had more years to build and it didn’t really become their most popular show until everyone started disliking it
NaRaGaMo t1_iwy9ed8 wrote
>Also ROP was the biggest Amazon show ever
Yes when you are competing against Paper girls, I know what you did last summer, Terminal List etc with 500mill+ budget you tend to become no.1
GarlVinland4Astrea t1_iwysr8k wrote
Ignore extremely popular shows like The Boys to create a strawman.
Crytash t1_iwtxl6f wrote
Sopranos was way bigger than the wire and in terms of influence i would argue Sex and the city was bigger too (it basically speadheaded several tropes that became overused over time), good of you to remember Oz though.
Corteaux81 t1_iwu7wdr wrote
Wire only exploded in fame later on. It is, IMO, the best show ever made - but to say it was hugely popular would be utterly false.
retropieproblems t1_iwuhd6j wrote
It’s a great show but at this point I’d say the Wire is overrated. People hear it’s the best show of all time and just regurgitate it to sound interesting since it’s not that widely known of a show (outside of Reddit). It was the “cool” answer to best show of all time 10 years ago, but better shows have been made since.
Corteaux81 t1_iwv354o wrote
Not in my opinion. I'm as big as ASOIAF fan as you'll ever meet, and the first four seasons were almost perfect television - but The Wire still stood just above that to me.
The Wire still #1 for me.
retropieproblems t1_iwv5rl7 wrote
That’s fair I’m just being a hater lol
Lil_Mcgee t1_iwvlnp6 wrote
I wouldn't say it's overrated. Whether it's the greatest of all time is always gonna be a matter of subjective opinion but it's definitely in the running, there'd have to be many more excellent shows for it to not even be a contender.
I can't think of another show that is as well written whilst also having so many moving parts. It's an incredibly dense show with a vast interconnecting web of characters that touches on a fuck load of relevant societal themes and tells dozens of compelling human stories whilst doing so. That's not the only measure of quality but it's an area where it really does have other shows beat in my opinion.
Radulno t1_iwu66ok wrote
Also, Amazon is already on the map as being one of the biggest companies and website on the planet lol. People know about Amazon and Prime more than any show can do it.
Thongs0ng t1_iwtgw9i wrote
I was using those shows as rough examples to make my point, not a point by point run down of every culturally relevant show both services have put out lol.
Plus I’m talking about shows that entered the cultural zeitgeist, not necessarily just critically acclaimed shows.
GarlVinland4Astrea t1_iwv55s2 wrote
It was Amazon’s biggest show of all time and every single metric that was a big success for them. The only people claiming it wasn’t are people who are just arbitrarily saying “it cost a lot so I think it should do more” without any real knowledge of the economics behind it.
Aka it’s a vague claim that has nothing to back it up by people in a sub that didn’t like the show before it was released
Also Dahmer is on the biggest streaming platform in the world and it outdid many more expensive shows, that’s more about how much of an out of nowhere hit and a testament to its success.
Cash907 t1_iwv6jsq wrote
Except Reacher, a show that didn’t cost a tenth as much to make, pulled in more hours overall. RoP was an expensive flop. Sorry but that’s just the truth.
GarlVinland4Astrea t1_iwv7qe8 wrote
There’s literally no metric that says it’s a flop lol. If it’s a flop HOTD is a flop since they had similar viewership lol.
Imagine ignoring reality this much because you hate a show lol.
Some of you are really funny with how far you are willing to make yourselves look ridiculous
Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments