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ArsBrevis t1_j0s4alh wrote

Good. If we can't have quality & quantity, better to just have quality. A lot of Netflix shows have been downright embarrassing this year.

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TheSeventhAnimorph t1_j0shull wrote

...and on the next streaming-related post, the top comment will be someone complaining about shows getting cancelled.

Seriously, the predominant views on this subreddit are bafflingly contradictory; people simultaneously complain about too many quality shows being cancelled, while also espousing the idea that reducing quantity is a good thing because it means they'll focus more on "quality" (while ignoring that their definition of "quality" is obviously not the one the services are using given the shows that are being cancelled - they're effectively advocating for the services to cancel more of the shows that they do like).

In reality, reducing quantity won't increase the quality of content at all; it will actually decrease the number of quality shows by anyone's definition and will reduce the number of niches that are getting any content at all.

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CptNonsense t1_j0soqo3 wrote

Reddit thinks quality means "Shows that appeal directly, specifically to them that they also like personally"

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lightsongtheold t1_j0usk0b wrote

It is still a puzzle even using that particular bit of logic why those folks think networks ordering less TV shows will result in them personally finding more TV shows they enjoy!

You know what happened at HBO when AT&T ordered them to produce more TV shows? We got more great TV shows than ever before!

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DMPunk t1_j0uengm wrote

Yeah, that's what happens when there's millions of people using the subreddit. It's harder to get a consensus

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Abradolf1948 t1_j0tcslw wrote

Because Netflix keeps canceling the actual good shows in the hopes that the next one they greenlight will be the next Stranger Things or Squid Game. The latter of which the original creator didn't even want to have a sequel in the first place.

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StephenHunterUK t1_j0w8sw1 wrote

They are also applying a rather ruthless viewership vs. cost approach - they know how many people actually complete a series once they're started it and how long it takes them to do.

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sirbissel t1_j0t24e6 wrote

Or they just go with semi scripted game shows and reality shows...

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vadergeek t1_j0u14ok wrote

> If we can't have quality & quantity, better to just have quality.

But is there any reason to believe recent shifts will lead to higher average quality? Looking at, say, HBO and Amazon's recent output, I'm skeptical.

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fiercetankbattle t1_j0wkjyz wrote

I was about to ask which ones, then I realised you probably mean anything that it’s targeted directly at mid 20s white males.

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LetMeBangBro t1_j0ws349 wrote

> quality & quantity, better to just have quality

I'd rather take the quantity. Means there is a higher chance that someone takes a risk in distributing a new show and that ther eis a chance a show will appear to my tastes.

When distributors focus on quality, then they limit what they take on. And since media companies are risk averse, you get the safest, cookie cutter type media. And then you get the other distributors doing the same, needing their version of a specific hit.

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burnabybambinos t1_j0s7oju wrote

Have to pay for quality talent to make those shows.... with Netflix giving away too many subscriptions, they cut-off freebies, and lost clients.

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be-like-water-2022 t1_j0tdl24 wrote

Bad. What is happening is not quality over quantity but mediocre content over anything else. AI will make scripts and people will eat garbage as it delicious meal.

"All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.

Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise. "

Adolf Fucking Hitler

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StephenHunterUK t1_j0w9x8c wrote

  • Stranger Things - Fifth and final season due in 2024, spin-off planned
  • Star Trek: Discovery - Renewed for fifth season
  • The Grand Tour - has aired the first episode of what is deemed Season 5 by Amazon with a Central European-located one in the can.
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LeoIrish t1_j0sqet4 wrote

  1. No real surprise it happened - it seemed really more than a question of when.

  2. Not too worried about less shows coming out. My watchlist is so large - shows & movies - I doubt I will ever watch it all. One of the main reasons I (usually) wait a show has been renewed before I give it a try.

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karma_the_sequel t1_j0s9h73 wrote

Duh. Everyone knew this day would come.

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Divallo t1_j0stz9m wrote

Yeah but do you know what happens next? I'm not really sure what happens now because I'm not going back to TV.

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wujo444 t1_j0tcu7z wrote

We go from "absolutely ridiculous" amount of content produced to "ridiculous".

Nobody's gonna notice a difference for the next 5 years.

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lightsongtheold t1_j0utb6o wrote

Especially if the volume returns to the level it is at right now as the services that survive gain the subscriber volume they need to support a higher volume slate.

I still say the Golden Age is past though as we are just exiting the period where streamers, broadcast, and cable were firing on all cylinders. Cable in particular is beginning to look like a wasteland for scripted outside of the premium networks and FX.

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surferos505 t1_j0spow2 wrote

It continues to baffle me how people don’t know how business, and competition works

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Really_McNamington t1_j0txz46 wrote

Seems to be a new golden age for people rewriting variations of this article though.

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Saar13 t1_j0s4gft wrote

"There are a few outliers to this year’s trend: Apple TV+ and Amazon have increased the number of adult scripted series they have purchased this year."

It's an easy bet that Amazon and Apple are the places that content creators will go from now on. That's where the money is and some stability, albeit without guarantees. It's been 3 years since people discussed who will win the streaming war, but the answer has always been easy - who has the money to not need it.

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CptNonsense t1_j0sov9v wrote

There's no more stability at Amazon than Netflix. There's just even worse advertising and visibility

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lightsongtheold t1_j0utfwj wrote

There was also reports that even Amazon will cut back in 2023 after a terrible set of financials last quarter.

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ijakinov t1_j0s7b73 wrote

Worth noting that pretty much everyone plans on increasing yearly total content spend in dollars, albeit a smaller increase than what. was previously planned for some.

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jogoso2014 t1_j0sf5dl wrote

I’m ok with fewer new stuff.

I can’t keep up anyway.

I just don’t want to see a trend of reduced catalogue which is how I keep up.

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splatomat t1_j0tr0vw wrote

It doesn't help that streaming went from a glorious time of few sources to literally every single network propping up their own service with their own subscription fee that continually goes up and up and up. It's just cable all over again, and just like cable, a lot of what's being put out is trash.

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CorporateSympathizer t1_j0ss18m wrote

It will probably take a decade but I wouldn't be surprised to see all the traditional television studios closing down and all TV coming from Amazon/Apple/Youtube. Those 3 have enough money to bankrupt the studios 10 times over.

And as always Congress will fine them $20 million for anticompetitive practices a few years after most of the studios close up shop.

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levarrishawk t1_j0u8wjv wrote

Uhh streamings golden age died a few years ago when every network and studio decided they needed their own streaming service. They couldn’t stand sharing revenue with Netflix or Amazon or Hulu and instead they have chosen to drive us back out onto the seven seas. Yarrrrrr

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jfstompers t1_j0u3c8g wrote

As long as it doesn't go the way of movies and just become blockbuster tv shows being made.

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Alice-Grant t1_j0v373o wrote

They could just renew shows they already stream instead of canceling them after one or two seasons.

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AsanoSokato t1_j0sw9ai wrote

Never underestimate the reaches of corporate greed. There is nothing it can't ruin.

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circumference t1_j0t7lat wrote

Dahmer is gonna make it worse. Ironic. They’re gonna follow the eyeballs that are mostly on their phones and drive this car right into the ditch.

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Somerandomdickhead t1_j0tqozk wrote

Did streaming ever really have a “golden age”?

I mean when it was just a couple of choices it was great to have a convenient place to watch older stuff that was no longer on TV mixed with some originals. But it wasn’t some magical time that’s remembered fondly by everyone who lived it is it?

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palegate t1_j0u3aze wrote

People in the gaming industry take heed.

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Zeusmann34 t1_j0sn85s wrote

Good. There's like 15 shows I wanna watch anyway.

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obx808 t1_j0u5d6l wrote

I canceled all streaming services a few months ago. I will no longer pay for advertising. Streaming is the new cable.

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lightsongtheold t1_j0utmpu wrote

You know you can still subscribe to the advertising free tiers, right?

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LycanHD t1_j0up28b wrote

NF canceled Warrior Nun even though it's doing great. Hopefully, AMZN gives it a home and a bigger budget!

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lightsongtheold t1_j0uttxs wrote

It was not doing “great”. The viewership numbers were awful. That is why Netflix cancel Warrior Nun.

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