Most of these have been done to death. Underwhelming except for swamp thing.

Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters

Creature Commandos:

>An animated seven episode series, written by Gunn, that is already in production. Originally a team of classic monsters assembled to fight Nazis, this is a modern take on the concept. The voice actors have yet to be cast but the executives are looking to find people who can voice the animated characters and also portray the live-action versions when the anti-heroes to show up in movies and shows.

Waller:

>A spin-off of Gunn’s own HBO Max hit series, Peacemaker, Viola Davis will return as the ruthless and morally ambiguous head of a government task force. It is being written by Christal Henry (Watchmen) and Jeremy Carver, the creator of the Doom Patrol TV series.

Lanterns:

>Greg Berlanti’s long-in-the-works Green Lanterns TV series has been scrapped and the duo have parted ways with the longtime DC series steward. In its place will be a new take on the space cops with power rings. “Our vision for this is very much in the vein of True Detective,” Safran described. “It’s terrestrial-based.” It will feature prominent Lantern heroes Hal Jordan and John Stewart and is one of the most important shows they have in development. “This plays a really big role in leading into the main story we are telling across film and TV.”

Paradise Lost:

>The duo describe this HBO Max series as a Game of Thrones-style drama set on the all-female island that is Wonder Woman’s birthplace, Themyscira, filled with political intrigue and scheming between power players. It takes place before the events of the Wonder Woman films.

Booster Gold:

>an HBO Max series based on a unique and lower-tiered hero created in 1986. Safran said of the series, “It’s about a loser from the future who uses basic future technology to come back to today and pretend to be a superhero.” Gunn described it as “imposter syndrome as superhero.”

I'm pretty disappointed in this reveal. I may be in the minority but I don't really care to watch an Amanda Waller show or a GoT style drama set on Themiscyra.

Fuck yeah, Creature Commandos! Guessing Agents of SHADE iteration with Father Time.

( yawn ) Let's hope Lanterns and Paradise Lost have full frontal male nudity.

You hoping for full frontal female nudity too? Keep dreaming.

Can't wait to see Hal Jordan work with John Stewart in Lanterns. Also, excited for Booster Gold

Booster Gold has me so hyped, beyond a dream for me.

You are downvoted but I dont see anything exciting other than Lanter show.

I’m really hyped about the Lanterns show.

“Our vision for this is very much in the vein of True Detective,” Safran described. “It’s terrestrial-based.”

That sounds good. A Lantern show in the vein of True Detective is such a cool idea. Following different Lanterns solving different cases would be awesome.

If you aren't hyped for Booster Gold, you don't understand what magic is coming your way.

I will legitimately be disappointed if they don't sell ad-space in the show itself for BG to be hawking products.

Lanterns in the True Detective style

I won.

I like Booster Gold, I’d especially like if it’s an adaptation of his story in 52 but that’s probably a bit too big of a story to do without prior buildup

Booster Gold has a very interesting premise IMO.

I know that Blue Beetle was announced as "pre new slate", but I'm really hoping they keep that movie in continuity and have Booster make a teaser. Booster and Ted/Jaime have always been a favorite of mine and I'm really excited about Xolo ever since I saw him in Cobra Kai.

Is Lanterns HBO proper or an HBO Max show? Gunn said it was HBO in the video.

I hope they don’t all have the same tone.

I really wished we had gotten to see Donald Faison be Booster Gold for longer than 5 minutes on Legends of Tomorrow, I feel like he’d be great at it

Not sure if I'm more excited about Berlanti parting ways or Booster Gold/Lanterns. It's definitely a win-win scenario though.

Meh..not excited by any of these announcements and pretty disappointed that Peacemaker series two is indefinitely delayed due to Gunn working on the Superman movie and the general DC rebuild.

Also not keen on the news they are only aiming for 2 DC TV shows per year. DC Universe used to manage more than that volume on their own! If HBO Max cannot afford to produce the DC shows then I’m sure Apple, Amazon, or Netflix would love to fund and air them!

> Paradise Lost: The duo describe this HBO Max series as a Game of Thrones-style drama set on the all-female island that is Wonder Woman’s birthplace,

A Game Of Thrones style Themyscira Show? I’m in.

Are you talking about the horrible CW shows? 😂

I'm sure Gunn could put out 10 CW quality shows a year if he wanted to.

Pretty ambitious to say something like that, let's see if they can actually deliver on this

Nah…they used to pump out 4-5 shows at the CW annually. I’m talking about DC Universe where they had stuff like Doom Patrol, Harley Quinn, Titans, Stargirl, and Swamp Thing.

At this point HBOMax is dead, so it'll be HBO proper.

Ironic you use that complaint, than say you're excited for Swamp thing, who's had a movie and a show at this point.

You had me at Booster Gold. If we get a similar honest and goofy portrayal in the vein of Peacemaker that’s the show that will stand out. Booster Gold is a fun character. If they bring Ted Kord in I’ll be over the damn moon.

Wasn’t there an animated Superman show in the works that focuses on him and Lois? I hope that isn’t dead in all this.

Man some of y'all are just too picky for your own good.

Excellent reveal!

What I like most, is none of this feels like something Marvel would do. That was my biggest fear with in developing a shared cinematic universe for DC. And I love the idea of quality over quantity regarding their annual releases.

They better cast that guy from top gun as booster gold, he’s got the charisma whether the characters’ is fake or not

Edit: glen powell

What? Almost none of this has been done before

It’s post Flashpoint so I could see it. Aquaman 2 is as well as that’s obviously not moving into the new continuity so I could see Blue Beetle going either way.

It's crazy that this idea seems so obvious and yet the Green Lantern show was in development hell for years before finally landing on this.

Kid: "Mr. Can I have your autograph?"

Booster Gold: "Sure thing kid!"

Booster gives autograph

Kid: "Oh, I thought you were Green Lantern :(.

Great pitch, but the cool part about Green Lanterns is that they are cosmic cops and not limited to Earth

I hope some of their investigations is off world

looks like it. He did say Swamp Thing would be tonally different.

He has two movies actually!

I'm open minded but I get it. Both seem pretty derivative on the surface and you have to wonder if they'll actually be comic book shows. Or will they just have a light DC skin on them. Is Waller going to be its own thing or a Jack Ryan style thriller with a DC character? And they've done the DC Game of Thrones already, it was called Krypton and it wasn't very good. I trust Gunn enough to give him the benefit of the doubt though.

Well, given that HBO MAX is kicking the bucket in March when it gets absorved by Discovery+.

I think that Peacemaker S2 became Waller.

I'm intrigued by Lanterns and Paradise Lost. I'm a casual DC fan so this sounds interesting. Waller looks good too.

I was left a little confused. It seemed like they are starting over... except not really because Waller and the Peacemaker characters will continue on.

'that guy' yeah..

WBD's press release has Lanterns as HBO Max (or presumably what HBO Max ends up becoming). http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2023/01/31/dc-studios-announces-slate-of-10-new-film-and-television-projects-221411/20230131wbd01/

Tom Cruise is too old to play booster ;)

No, anything announced for HBO Max will just go into the merged streaming platform.

They're keeping some things and discarding others. The Flash movie presumably will allow them to control the extent of the reset.

If I were Glen Powell and his agent, I'd be holding out for a bigger role, e.g. DCU Batman ("The Brave and the Bold").

Can you rememebr the actors name? I can’t lol

"Merged".

It'll just be Discovery+ with a reskin, and all the quality HBO stuff behind a paywall and shoved full of ads.

I wonder if Amazons will keep speaking with Gal Gadot's accent without her.

Idek know what character you're referring to. actor Miles Teller?

He’s too blonde for Batman

Maybe it's just because I saw him as a cocky fighter pilot, but he's my pick for Hal Jordan

I don’t know if it’s the same show. The Green Lantern show that was in development hell was being produced by JJ Abrams. This show is produced by James Gunn.

If ever a show can be custom made for product placement, Booster Gold would be it.

> The Green Lantern show that was in development hell was being produced by JJ Abrams.

It was being produced by Greg Berlanti, and the original pitch was a 'multigenerational story' that Gunn described as a space opera with Alan Scott Green Lantern in the 40's, Guy Gardner in the 80's, and Simon Baz/Jessica Cruz in modern day. Which hey, seeing some of those characters in live action would be cool but doing every Earth Lantern except the two most popular and the two that make for a really obvious buddy cop paring seemed like a bizarre choice. Eventually it was reworked to be a John Stewart show but Gunn has said that version of the show is 100% cancelled and Lanterns is a totally new project.

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The duo are putting a premium on screenplay writing, saying that would prevent the dreaded feeling of “superhero fatigue” and also give the projects a tonal and thematic difference from each other. Gunn called out the degradation of screenwriters in Hollywood and also said that the duo wanted to be respectful of the voice of filmmakers they were working with … up to a point.

“It’s not the Gunnverse, it’s not,” Gunn said. “It’s got to be all these different feels from all these different stories. That’s what makes it so fun. The stories are completely different and each has the individual expression of the writers and the director that are making those projects.”

That is a good pick.

I’ve said it in other discussions, but I feel like I’ve seen someone that would be perfect for BG. That was before I saw TG:M. I think Glen Powell would be a really good casting choice. But I still feel like there’s another actor that I’m associating very strongly with my concept of BG.

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I sincerely hope they recast her or if nothing else, minimize her on screen time.

idk if i buy him for the father of a 10 year old he still seems youngish

James said that the Lanterns series will be set on Earth, but I hope that other Lanterns will appear in the series too, mainly Kilowog, Ch'p, Arisia and Laira.

I'm just so glad that DC movies and TV are finally converging into a coherent universe. Berlanti needed to go.

idk about paradise lost. i feel like DC have so many great characters, a “game of thrones style” drama focusing on random families from themyscira doesnt intrigue me personally

I'm looking forward to all of these except the creature commandos but hell I'll watch it.

Why did you give your frowny face a mole?

Berlanti spearheaded the most consistent DCU projects to date. The movies have been flailing around trying to find a plan, and Berlanti led a 10-year effort on a single network.

Was it all gold? No, but it was far more structured and ultimately, more successful, than any other DC effort since.

I'm looking forward to it solely on the basis of "written by Gunn"

Feel like they're making a similar mistake the MCU has, way too many random TV series for people to follow on top of a bunch of movies. Are these all connected?

Given Gunn's track record, it'll probably be a more comedic take in the vein of Booster's JLI years.

And three shows! Swamp Thing is literally the only thing on the list that could reasonably be called "done to death"

Yeah, Daniel Craig could never be James Bond.

I think if the show actually happens there’s a good chance it will involve the Greek god pantheon since they do appear a bit in the WW comics. Pretty sure they have stuff like Ares and/or Zeus hooking up with Diana’s mother.

Val Kilmer was Batman

What makes you say that?

They could always say Bruce and Taila hooked up when Bruce was in training and only 18-20. That means he could be a 30-35 year old Batman pretty easily with a 10-15 year old son.

Sounds exciting!

For those familiar, does DC have a tradition of actually executing on their announced projects? I know when I see a list of upcoming MCU phase 5 and 6 projects, there's a high likelihood the shows will actually air. I don't know whether I should have the same confidence here.

I like this a lot. Specifically green lanterns and the Amazonian series

So Waller is Peacemaker without Peacemaker? I can't imagine its a John Cena thing, he killed it and seemed to like the show.

Give me Sinestro Corps War and then Blackest Night. That’s all I’m asking for.

Amanda Waller is the worst part of the DC universe. Who does Viola Davis have dirt on?

>In its place will be a new take on the space cops with power rings. “Our vision for this is very much in the vein of True Detective,” Safran described. “It’s terrestrial-based.” It will feature prominent Lantern heroes Hal Jordan and John Stewart and is one of the most important shows they have in development.

What the fuck are you talking about?

You're definitely right, the blame should fall more on the CW than the people in charge of it. He did the best he could do with what he had.

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seems they want to wait a bit probably because gunn is busy shepherding the universe overall and writing superman.

Peacemaker etc seem to be in the waller show instead.

If they make all these projects have different tones that is leagues ahead of what the MCU still can’t do after nearly 15 years.

I am really excited for Booster Gold especially as an HBO Max series. I came across that Comic Book by accident when it was in a stack of comics I was buying that I somehow I accidentally grabbed and loved it.

Paradise Lost sounds really exciting.

i was extremely hesitant about their plan, but i can’t lie, Paradise Lost sounds amazing

Aaaaaaa don't remind me

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Is the booster gold show the same with Xolo Madrisomethoing (I forgot his last name)?

Edit: nevermind, I got confused with blue beetle 😅

seriously. the well has run dry. when. I can't believe there are people who keep wanting to know more about Superman after it's been told again and again and again and again.

It'd be awesome to finally get that big-budget superhero horror movie that Marvel occasionally made it sound like Doctor Strange 2 would be.

So the HBO MAX Green Lantern show that we've been waiting on for years is cancelled, and instead we're getting a completely different Lantern show?

Only the Lanterns series. Mystery starts there

>“One of our strategies is to take our diamond characters — which is Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman — and we use them to prop up other characters that people don’t know,” explained Gunn.

From the sounds of it, this is a little intentional. They're using "Chapter One" to introduce lesser-known characters, and then presumably they'll be able to bring more characters that have not been done to death to the forefront.

But really, between Creature Commandos, The Authority, Booster Gold, and Waller, I'd say they're already doing a decent job at not focusing entirely on the most known characters. Plus, James Gunn indicating they're exploring all of DC's imprints certainly opens the door for some interesting things in the future.

It's really hard to say at this point. Historically, DC has had a ton of things in various stages of development that never went anywhere, but that was all under entirely different leadership. If these projects are successful, I don't think we have to worry about execution. If they struggle out the gate, who knows?

But, I'm guessing most of these things will be in production around the same time, so I'm doubting there will be many changes within the first slate.

People don’t “want to learn more” about him, they want to see modern versions of their favorite characters on the big screen, and the DCEU simply wasn’t a cohesive adaption.

Also compared to say Gotham, Themyscira (Paradise Lost) and Green Lantern corps (Lanterns) have not been done to death. We have had so much world building and adjacent content for Batman, Superman, and even Flash / Green Arrow, but there's been very limited filmed world building for Wonder Woman or Green Lantern.

He made shows that appealed specifically to the CW market. You can't fault him for that. And as much as I've hated some aspects of that "universe," there was still more good than bad. Hell, some of it, you can lay at Geoff Johns' feet since he pushed for the Flash and moving Arrow away from the more Nolan-inspired take of the first two years.

Any news on Young Justice?

While still not a true horror film, marvel did show improvements with the Werewolf by Night special. But yeah, Dr. Strange 2 was definitely not the horror film they were trying to market it as.

Viola Davis is great as Waller, not sure what your problem is.

We've been asking for a third season of Green Lantern TAS for years, and instead we get a live action buddy cop/true crimes hybrid?
"Beware my power" on a TV budget doesn't exactly wow me here, Jimmy.

Daddy chill, it won't have nudity.

Agree. Jaime is my boy, and Xolo getting cast had me sqeee'ing like a preteen harajuku girl. Hope he gets rolled into the prime continuity and isn't left in the wings with the Elsewhere stuff.

"Yes Rooster, I AM good. I'm VERY good."
No, not Miles Teller.