betterplanwithchan t1_j58v1mn wrote on January 21, 2023 at 5:37 AM

I don’t think you understand what they were going for with Leia.

The whole plot about Leia trying to get a kiss was not out of some lustful nature but because she felt behind compared to her friends, especially in comparison to the guy she was interested in. So her chasing down a kiss was literally her trying to accomplish a goal tied to her sense of maturity. I’d go as far as to say that she’s one of the more tame members of the group, so your characterization is rather odd.

She’s not rewarded for her behavior for the 4th of July as we see from Eric and Donna’s reaction, especially the former who had to be thoroughly convinced to let her stay. And we see this even further when Donna literally drives all the way to Wisconsin on the mere assumption that her daughter is having sex.

I understand the points you’re trying to make but at the same time some of these takes are a little misconstrued.

DeviousOne420 OP t1_j590i5q wrote on January 21, 2023 at 6:37 AM

>She’s not rewarded for her behavior for the 4th of July as we see from Eric and Donna’s reaction, especially the former who had to be thoroughly convinced to let her stay.

How is she punished then? The punishment sure isn't staying with Kitty and Redd. That's what she wanted the entire time. So how is making her stay a punishment when that's exactly what she wanted? And Eric didn't want her to stay because he wanted to be with her. Not to mention she just struts in there, beer in hand and, talks shit... at 14. In That 70s Show kids could drink at 18 and everyone still had to hide their beer and stuff around Redd. In fact there are whole episodes dedicated to the kids stealing beet from Red or trying to get beer in under his nose because they weren't cool with it. In the 90snthe drinking age is 21 and they're suddenly cool with a 14 year old getting crushed? They didn't seem to care. They grounded her after the rave then hand her a car.

Also Red is so much softer on her. He hands the keys to the Cruiser over with a heartwarming speech right after sge gets caught sneaking out to a rave? He never did that shit for Eric. In fact Eric begged for Vista and Red sorta held it over his head as something to earn for multiple seasons. They softened him up like crazy.

>The whole plot about Leia trying to get a kiss was not out of some lustful nature but because she felt behind compared to her friends, especially in comparison to the guy she was interested in.

I get it. It's was just awkward and unfunny. It was honestly cringe and leaned hard into TeenNick territory.