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ThrowMeAway_97 OP t1_j97xjw4 wrote

I'm assuming my best course of action at this point is to just sit back and wait for a response, no? Don't continue to try and "fix" this. Just kind of ride out whatever comes my way.

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easyontheeggs t1_j98cl8z wrote

The best course of action would be to leave and never speak to either of these women again so they have the luxury of not being manipulated by you anymore.

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ThrowMeAway_97 OP t1_j98epbg wrote

I can accept the manipulation claim for G1. But G2 knows everything, and up until last night, was fine with how things are. I suppose if you mean my attempts at "fixing" things as manipulation, I can see that. But in the end, I'm accepting of whatever outcome I get from my situation. As a whole. Not just the fuck up I wrote about. But 100% the situation as a whole.

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Love4KittyButtholes t1_j98vo1m wrote

You don't see women as people. You're trying to mentally gymnastic your way around whether you are less of a piece of shit with G2 but the fact is you are terrible to both of them. If you were someone's B2 or B1 I have a feeling you'd feel differently. I'm not sure why you thought people in this thread would give you helpful advice to "fix" any of your terrible relationships.

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ThrowMeAway_97 OP t1_j9co9ku wrote

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I expect there to be all kinds of people on the internet. Those who will call me out for what I'm doing. And those who agree with it and would encourage it. Just kind of leaving it up to the internet to do its thing. Whatever it may be.

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Love4KittyButtholes t1_j9dvav6 wrote

And surprisingly, despite my gripes with sexism on Reddit, almost every single person here has pointed out that you're an asshole. It doesn't even sound like you feel bad about it. It's just a very sociopathic take and I don't see this often. Even if someone passionately defended how they weren't an asshole would betray some effort to remain in the clear. But you. You just don't care.

It's astounding. I wish I believed in karma.

You're not the worst person in the world, and you might even be decent to other people. But the thing that horrified me is the senseless blase attitude of it all.

There is something clearly very wrong with you. I hope these women figure it out.

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ThrowMeAway_97 OP t1_j9heoct wrote

It's hard to feel bad about something I know won't be changing any time soon. What's the point? I'd just feel like shit the whole time with nothing happening, and that just doesn't sound appealing. Do I, objectively speaking, know and understand that this is all fucked up and whatnot? That I should just own up and accept my fate? Yes. Absolutely. But if I'm being honest. I'm not going to. Not yet. That time will come. I'll accept whatever karma or shit gets thrown my way. Not gonna complain about it. I'll deserve it. But until then. I'm just gonna ride this out and just let things be things. Is that fucked? Yes. But it is what it is at this point 🤷

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Love4KittyButtholes t1_j9la6gr wrote

The point of empathy is to _reduce suffering_. That's the point. The point is to be good. If you don't find a point in feeling like shit for doing shitty things, what is the point? Just hedonistically grinding your way through life fucking people over for whatever carnal or base pleasures causes you to just "ride things out" until someone catches up to you? And if the karma doesn't catchup?

When you do something unethical and no one is watching, there IS someone watching, and it's not god or some higher power, it's YOU. When you do fucked up things, you change who you are as a person. You allow yourself to marinate in the harm of others as an acceptable trade off for whatever incidental rewards you receive for the time being. You end up a different person. My argument is that you harm yourself when you harm others, you just don't totally feel it at the moment.

I'm not going to tell you that karma will catch up to you, because I've lived long enough to know that terrible things don't always happen to terrible peop.e. Some terrible people live long and get away with everything. But I can tell you, for the most part, I have not met many terrible people who were happy being terrible people. They're always acting in a way that seems insecure, attention-seeking, paranoid, or base. It's no way to live, man. You sound young, so none of this has made its mark. But someday it will.

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Chim_Pansy t1_j9bwb7a wrote

The best course of action is to leave both of these women alone as well as every other woman on the planet until you develop a sense of empathy and respect for others.

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