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mankls3 OP t1_irtzq74 wrote
Yes Germany did not p7rsue this invention because it was determined to be not in the war time interest
Meandmystudy t1_irujba8 wrote
The United States pursued a bombing computer that was not digital. It resembled what phone companies were using to route calls. During raids I think bombers would call in their position and they would mark it on something that looked like a giant router.
guitarnoir t1_iruzjsp wrote
The US submarines of WWII used an analog, electro-mechanical computer to figure out inwhich direction, and when to fire a torpedo and have it arrive at a moving surface vessel:
Sdog1981 t1_irw6gpg wrote
And they are still being used today.
"Two upgraded World War II-era U.S. Navy fleet submarines (USS Tusk and Cutlass) with their TDCs continue to serve with Taiwan's navy and U.S. Nautical Museum staff are assisting them with maintaining their equipment."
Peter_deT t1_irvi8vk wrote
Ships had used the same for gunnery direction for decades - continuously developed from pre World War I. One of the components of dreadnought gunnery.
Veilchengerd t1_irv7no9 wrote
Zuse only finished his Z3 in the middle of the war. Which was a prototype. Meanwhile the mechanical IBM hardware, which was perfectly usable, had been around for years.
And there is no need to put date processing in parentheses. They used them pretty much any data processing they had to do. Not just for the genocides.
OneBlueHopeUTFT t1_irx9sq1 wrote
Those aren’t parentheses
OldMork t1_irujodf wrote
at the time there was not many options if need a computer, wiki lists models from the 50's, wonder what they had before that?
kibufox t1_is016w8 wrote
Automatic transmission has no ties to war. Alfred Horner Munro, a Canadian steam engineer, designed the first automatic transmission in 1921 and patented the transmission in 1923. He created the automatic transmission with four forward gears and no reverse or parking gears, and he used air pressure instead of hydraulic fluid. General Motors used the transmission in the Oldsmobile, Buick, and Cadillac between 1937 and 1938.
mankls3 OP t1_irtvhaj wrote
Called the Z3 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z3_(computer)
Opposite-Meat1288 t1_irvbirq wrote
If you speak German there was a nice radio play about it recently: https://www.hoerspieltipps.net/hsp/3707.html
Edit: *rebroadcasted recently
Superbead t1_irw74pv wrote
Of Zuse's machines, my heart belongs to his Z1: https://youtu.be/duOBNyUdT2M
[deleted] t1_irxkm4e wrote
The Germans should get credit, for a lot more than they do as of today. My 2cent’s
whiffitgood t1_iryk88o wrote
credit for what?
[deleted] t1_is0xpho wrote
Inventions etc. Bringing a country from, debt, making jobs. The autobahn, i can go on and on.
“wernher von braun” without him, and others, Usa and Russia would not have “Lift off so early”
Witsand87 t1_is1oget wrote
Well, the autobahn’s main goal was to transport military, all the job creation and sudden rise of economy was geared to collapse in the long term, as it too was focused on a future war, so a war had to happen, and as the war went on, more war was needed to sustain the economy, for example the push into Southern Russia for the oil fields. The way the Third Reich managed the economy would have imploded on its own without a war.
I’m not disagreeing with you though, the autobahn was the first highway, V2 the first ballistic missiles that lead to space travel, first photo of earth was even taken using a modified V2. First jet aircraft, first assault rifle, the volkswagen even, and so on. Just saying that, let’s say, unfortunately, most of these innovations has their routs in war. That doesn’t take away how innovative they were though.
[deleted] t1_is27ox6 wrote
Still all big achievements. And continuing with many more. Grusom war, but all sides where grusom.
It was still a time where Alexander the Great, and The Roman empire still where very much, admired and for reason.
My father fought in Norway during wwII, and like he also said. They where different times, “evereyone” turned to animals. The world was “Crazy”
“What we learn from history is, we do not learn from history”
Witsand87 t1_is29b2x wrote
Yes, people today seem to forget just how crazy history has already been. People saying things like “we living in the last days before the end of the world because of all the wars etc going on today”. Well, if you want to get all biblical about it then surely the second world war was the end of the world, it even had a leader, who at first seemed unstoppable, trying to wipe out all jews and install a new world order. We are actually living in a fairly peaceful time in world history today, all things considered I guess. So I’d believe what your father say, we cannot really imagine what it’s like when a war happens and it comes down to survival, for yourself, family and/ or your identity/ nation.
[deleted] t1_is2bsng wrote
And by communicating, like we do here. We can discuss, Good things, bad things, innovations etc.
I think the whole world is, fedup with war, chestbanging and fear drivven politics.
Time’s for change, i hope are coming.
“If you always speak the truth, Less need you remember”
Witsand87 t1_is2ln5e wrote
We are definitely living in an age that’s like no other in history. Where kings and dictators had it “easy” to manipulate their own people in the past, today it’s getting harder to do with, for now, uncontrolled communication, or should I say, free communication and access to information. But another danger arise with this, and it’s something Hitler’s arms minister, Albert Speer, warned about, he said that never before has anyone used technology so well for propaganda, like the radio and camera. He said something along the lines of how great technology is, but we should safeguard it and not allow dictators to use it for their own benefits. Internet is an amazing tool, but it too can sway opinions if it ever gets controlled, or simply just via advertising or miss information.
[deleted] t1_is4qy9a wrote
Curvball: everything after 1940 is propaganda….. 🫣😁
[deleted] t1_is4r14x wrote
We are living in a world, of information over load. And the best way to control, in your hands…..
whiffitgood t1_is2jjti wrote
>but all sides where grusom.
One side was fighting to build, maintain and defend a regime whose existential purpose was the destruction of entire peoples.
>“What we learn from history is, we do not learn from history”
Yeah like pretending there's any kind of moral equivalence between the Nazis and the Allies because all sides
lmao
whiffitgood t1_is2jdwd wrote
>Inventions etc.
Such as?
> Bringing a country from, debt,
German economic recovery happened in spite of the Nazis. In fact it was largely Nazi economic planning that caused massive inflation.
>making jobs.
Such as?
>The autobahn,
The autobahn was not a Nazi invention.
> i can go on and on.
Nope.
Elenano98 t1_is6kgii wrote
You do realise he didn't write "give credit to the Nazis"?
[deleted] t1_isald17 wrote
Thank you ellenano98
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frapawhack t1_irwvvve wrote
The Germans. again
Skud_NZ t1_irxkm1r wrote
Has anyone got it to run doom?
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AmbitiousTour t1_is3fwwm wrote
It ran at 5-10 Hz.
[deleted] t1_irw9we1 wrote
I bet he was a sour Kraut….
woiturtle t1_irxcb7u wrote
What is a fully automatic computer?
What do you mean by digital? By definition of a computer, they are "digital" because they are based on 1s and 0s. The earliest computers worked off of punch cards to denote 0s and 1s.
sadrice t1_irzbyu1 wrote
Analog computers are very much a thing, especially around that time period. I suspect “automatic” means you did not have to change the physical wiring to reprogram it.
CrieDeCoeur t1_irtzl1w wrote
And yet the Nazis turned to IBM for their 'data prcessing' needs.
Side note: Many innovations born out of wartime necessity often become mainstream. See also: automatic transmission, 4 wheel drive, etc.