marmorset t1_iuezhje wrote
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I've worked for both big and small companies and black people were more likely to get hired than anyone else. If you're a black person with a college degree you're more likely to get hired than anyone else. Joe Biden said of Obama, "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man," and he was criticized for it, but if you fit that description and apply to a big company they put you on the fast track.
The people in banks lend to the people who are going to pay back loans. I don't think the issue is racism, it's personal financial history. I'm a real estate agent, there's no issue in black people getting loans or buying houses. If you can manage your money and have a stable history you'll get a loan.
The structural racism is in schools, black children get a poor education and the school system just claims it needs more money but nothing ever changes. Think about any case that became national news involving a black person and the police. Do you think any of those black men had a high school diploma?
Seventy percent of black children are born to unwed mothers, and it's been shown time and again that growing up without a father has a tremendous negative effect on both girls and boys. I have two kids and I can tell right away which of their friends come from intact families, which kids are only children, and which kids are from broken homes. That's the fundamental problem but it's hard to think of solutions and society has chosen to look the other way.
bernardhayse t1_iuf0yop wrote
Structural racism is definitely in your line of business. You must be familiar with redlining and which go hand in hand with the poor school systems.
Companies may hire black people but to say they are getting fast tracked is way off. Nepotism is rampant in positions of power with businesses. Small business hire people they know, I know from experience.
And there was a concerted effort starting with the Nixon administration to disrupt the family structure in black and hippie communities all the way through to Clinton. You are familiar with the crack epidemic and denial of home loans during the 50s when the vast majority of americans accumulated their wealth?
marmorset t1_iuff3hn wrote
I've seen no redlining. Most [of] my clients are non-white and they never have trouble getting mortgages or buying into specific neighborhoods. I see (non-white) people almost exclusively want to live with people like them.
If you run a small business nepotism makes sense, if that fails you've lose everything. Hiring relatives and people you know isn't to excludes others, it's to hire people you trust.
Although LBJ's Great Society didn't help, I don't blame either side for disruption of the black family, the rates of unwed mothers, for all races, shoots up immediately after abortion and contraception become legalized. Although it freed up women from being forced into marriages to avoid social stigma, it also allowed women to have children without being forced into marriage. It's not clear why blacks were more affected.
Unlike fentanyl and oxycontin, crack was a big city problem, it wasn't nationwide. New York, Newark, and Philadelphia were hit hardest by crack. It wasn't that black people were more likely to use crack, it's that people in big cities were the ones affected by crack, and that's where most black people tend to live.
While it's true black people in the past had a difficult time accumulating wealth due to government policies, those policies aren't in effect anymore and immigrants have no trouble accumulating wealth. I see it everyday, poor immigrant grandparents, parents go to college, their kids grow up in the suburbs.
I'm mixed race but look white, grew up in a black neighborhood, in a broken home, with a mentally ill mother, on welfare, and lived in the projects. Any kid who did well in school got good grades or "talked white" was relentlessly bullied, regardless of race. And since it was a majority black neighborhood and a majority black school, that meant mostly black kids. I don't know why that started and you can blame Nixon or Clinton, but black people have destroyed the lives of more black people than any government program or supposed racist conspiracy. Even today black men shoot other black men at incredible rates. I don't know the solution, but blaming the problem on racist whites in the 1950s is nonsense.
bernardhayse t1_iufg8qa wrote
You dont blame any fuckin side? Theres literally audio of John Erhlichman talking about disrupting the hippie and black communities with heavy handed drug policies. Like there's no debate about their intentions so idk why you're trying here.
Black people were absolutely more likely to be caught in possession of crack because their communities were heavily policed by design. Go google this shit. Wtf? And being denied homes hurt their wealth, you know what's easier to get than coke when you're poor?
The fact that you deny the existence of redlining is hilarious. I'm done with this convo.
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