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dv666 t1_iu0l71v wrote

Reply to comment by Papi__Stalin in TIL The European 30 Years' War 1618 - 1648 began with Czech nobles throwing two Habsburg governors out of Prague castle window onto a huge dungheap. The corresponding carnage - fought over the issue of religious freedom following the Protestant Reformation - left millions dead. by Royal_Bumblebee_

Thanks. I'm gonna read this later. I'm pleasantly surprised, I wasn't expecting a proper reply

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Papi__Stalin t1_iu0rbup wrote

Cool.

Lmk what you think.

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dv666 t1_iu1bzfn wrote

It's an excellent essay and thanks for posting your sources, I might check one or two out. My degree's in IR and the Westphalian treaty was upheld to nearly dogmatic levels by various profs and I was skeptical to an extent of it's influence.

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Papi__Stalin t1_iu1o5ia wrote

Ah cheers man. I do history and politics with an IR module and luckily a lot of the professors here are either skeptical or outright hostile to the idea of the Westphalian System.

One of them wrote a book which was something like "Westphalia for the Middle East" which is an interesting read as it essentially argues that the Westphalian peace was essentially ensured limits on sovereignty to protect certain rights and limited intervention. He argues that something similar might help to solve many if the problems the Middle East face.

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