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dasoomer t1_ivjk5jg wrote

Whereas in America you can get your shit seized and never see it again despite not guilty status.

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ButWhatAboutisms t1_ivk8z3x wrote

You don't even need to be charged with a crime. It's called "civil asset forfeiture".

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Wzup t1_ivkruwq wrote

It’s so wild that an inanimate object can be charged with a crime.

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Phelpysan t1_ivlr98q wrote

I mean companies are people, and they're hardly even objects, so why not!

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snooggums t1_ivkjqmp wrote

We used a thing to address abandoned property suspected of being used for crime to take property in people's possession for no reason whatsoever!

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[deleted] t1_ivnm46a wrote

The fact that this isn’t unanimously considered a fourth amendment violation is a total betrayal by the entire judiciary.

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detumaki t1_ivmlcj8 wrote

In California there was a case of an armed truck transporting cash seized on the grounds "the truck might be related to the legal sell of Marijuana" because a similar truck used by a different company (not the same truck, driver, company, etc) was previously seen parked outside a legal dispensary. Even after they proved that vehicle did not have any illegal funds and did not even service any Marijuana facility, not to mention Marijuana is legal in California, they refused to return the millions stolen.

They literally robben an armored truck at gunpoint, assaulted and kidnapped the guards, falsified charges, stole the money, then only released their prisoners when they were forced to because their false charges didn't stick, then had to be taken to court to get the money back (because they refused).

'Merica

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locks_are_paranoid t1_ivms8ak wrote

Defund the police

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detumaki t1_ivmspwi wrote

pretty sure then they just look for a way to fund themselves.

not to mention that makes no attempts to solve the actual root problems, just blaming the people meant to be helping(meant to doesn't even imply its what they do)

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locks_are_paranoid t1_ivn18q1 wrote

The actual answer is to have strict regulations on what police can do, but there's almost zero chance of that ever passing

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detumaki t1_ivn1ps2 wrote

it also tends to backfire.

But not to mention in no way at all addresses any actual issues. Blaming the police for homelessness, violence, etc.

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locks_are_paranoid t1_ivn66xx wrote

Given that cops have literally shot homeless people and are the main perpetraters of violence, it's 100% logical to blame cops for homelessness and violence

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detumaki t1_ivnbul6 wrote

Not at all iff you considered history, statistics, or logic. But sure, blame the economy on police so that you can empower the same politicians that actually caused the issues. Seems to be the "'Merican Way" of thinking.

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KypDurron t1_ivjl3nk wrote

I think you mean "despite not guilty status".

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dasoomer t1_ivjqvo6 wrote

Thank you, that is what I meant but sometimes all of the words don't make it from my brain

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ark_mod t1_ivk7lry wrote

You actually meant "despite not being charged". In America large amounts of cash can be seized and kept by the police without every charging you with a crime. It is then on the owner to price the cash was legally acquired.

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fish_whisperer t1_ivjkxix wrote

You mean despite not guilty status

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Riegel_Haribo t1_ivl75bw wrote

Whereas in America, you can steal 50000 Bitcoin in 2012 (from a guy now in prison for life for subverting big pharma), and then the feds bust you with headlines claiming you stole billions ("we wanted to steal that money!").

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diverareyouok t1_ivkhr7d wrote

Yeah, this couldn’t happen in the USA because of the theory of “unjust enrichment”. I’m honestly surprised the same isn’t true there.

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