Aronomous t1_ixv0coc wrote
Reply to comment by HappilyhiketheHump in Warmer, more volatile winters limit lake ice skating opportunities in Vermont | It’s getting more challenging for Lake Morey Resort to maintain its four-mile-long skating track. by newnemo
As a Vermonter who skates and pucks on lakes and ponds this is an extremely unnecessary hot take.
Not to mention the minimizing of the damage being done to our trade and agriculture sectors. Go back to bed and wake up on the better side of it bud.
Walruzuma t1_ixxqkpw wrote
This is a terrible take. Humans have done substantially better during warming periods (the Renaissance coming out of the Dark Ages, when Global temps were 2 degrees higher than today) and our current period starting around 1850 when we started coming out of 'The Little Ice Age'. Increased temperatures release non saline water from Ice Caps and increased tillable land mass. If you understand what it takes to feed people, you understand these are not specifically unwanted attributes.
Aronomous t1_ixzw0rq wrote
Every inch of gained tillable land will be offset by the coastal saltwater intrusion due to rising sea levels. Nice try though. I would venture a hypothesis that humans do better during warming periods not because of arable land growth but more because of new technologies put forth to grow, adapt and overcome with the changing soil. More recently, it was the Industrial Revolution for god sakes. I don’t know enough about this topic to argue, but any conversation with a generational farmer I’ve ever had does not sound like whatever nonsense you just put forth.
Walruzuma t1_ixzxsp1 wrote
A generational farmer in the US started when? Early 1800's? Just as we were coming out of the little ice age? The climate has been warming since then. Since a couple decades BEFORE the industrial revolution. Sea levels have risen since that period and populations have boomed. Why? Because the climate is more conducive to growing food to sustain a larger population. Sea levels during the last full blown ice age (12000 ish years ago) were at the continental shelf of each continent, some 200-2000 feet farther out than they are now. Where was the population growth with all that 'tillable land'? It didn't exist because even though there was more land it was too cold for food species to thrive. How do you think a population can endeavor something as huge as the industrial revolution? How is it possible? It's because food was becoming more abundant. Some portion of the population can be dedicated to food while other subsets can do things like engineering and building because they aren't spending their time looking for food. Just like it was during the Renaissance. But then the temp dropped 4 degrees and things were thrown back and we end up with the plagues of the Medieval era. There was no food so populations were weak. It's astonishing to me how people can't think critically for themselves any more. They lap up 'expert' narratives that in and of themselves make sense only through the narrow view of their expertise. The big picture almost ALWAYS tells a much different story.
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