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beep_check t1_j2s1zys wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Burlington had 5 murders in 2022, the most since 1960 by BoringAccountName78

but Burlington is not a "major city"

the city council cut 33% of the police force with no reallocation of funding for public safety. crime is way up in Burlington as a direct result of this foolish move by amateur politicians.

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[deleted] t1_j2s42hd wrote

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HappilyhiketheHump t1_j2s5n3p wrote

Refunding shows that the city council figured out they screwed up. The bonuses are because the people doing the job quit and said “fuck off” to the pricks who persecuted them as a group for the horrible actions of a couple cops in Minneapolis.

They quit, as is their right. They don’t have to come back for more money. The fact that Burlington isn’t getting tons of applicants given the pay they are offering gives insight into how cops view the leaders of the city.

Who wants to work for bosses who are openly hostile to their employees?

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HappilyhiketheHump t1_j2stv45 wrote

No one is ignoring that or suggesting we ignore that.

But we can’t ignore the stupid move by the city council either.

You wouldn’t ignore that would you?

Both can issues can and do exist at the same time.

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[deleted] t1_j2sv332 wrote

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HappilyhiketheHump t1_j2szvww wrote

So you won’t acknowledge the screwup by the city council. Why not?

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Corey307 t1_j2sba2o wrote

Burlington had 93 cops before the defund movement took off with a maximum of 100. That number dropped down to 60 at one point, nothing you say can invalidate this. And of course they’re having a hard time hiring when no cash bail means people commit crimes even violent crimes and a right back out on the street within a day to commit more crimes including violent crimes. I’ve talked to some Burlington police about this and they’ve been candid about how it feels to arrest criminals who get released within hours and go commit more crimes. A lot of them do genuinely care about their job and the community beyond they can’t get anything done.

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[deleted] t1_j2s32tq wrote

What does that have to do with it? Cops don't prevent murders.

New York City has something like 35,000 uniformed police officers and the city averages almost 2 murders every day.

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beep_check t1_j2sexxx wrote

they also have 8.8M people as of 2020.

if your numbers on nyc homicide rates are correct that's

2.2 x 365 / 8.8M x 100000

9.1 murders per annum per 100,000 people

while burlington's number is

5 / 44,890 x 100000

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