Ok-Title-270 t1_j6iry7i wrote
People complaining VT pizza is too expensive are the same ones who think restaurant workers should be paid $30 an hour+benefits. Which one is it?
Emotional-Mulberry82 t1_j6j5wej wrote
A lot of us are the ones making the $30 pizzas at restaurants and not receiving the living wage needed to buy our own pie. So yeah, i guess it’s sometimes the same group. My boss makes lots of money not having a clue, and would prefer to sell you pizza made with frozen dough and still charge 30 if it weren’t for the workers insisting on some quality to maintain the dignity of their labor. That’s my personal experience.
Ok-Title-270 t1_j6jejtl wrote
>My boss makes lots of money not having a clue,
Restaurants fail at higher rates than almost any other business. Margins are small and lots of competition. I therefore highly doubt this assertion
thunder-cricket t1_j6jo4r1 wrote
So you think because restaurants often fail, the guy you're responding to is probably lying about the boss of the restaurant he works at making a lot of money and not having a clue?
Ok-Title-270 t1_j6jozet wrote
Yes
thunder-cricket t1_j6jpkbm wrote
you're not one for logic then.
Ok-Title-270 t1_j6jryp8 wrote
If you're bad at running a restaurant you will lose money and go out of business, not make lots of money. Tell me the flaw in logic here
thunder-cricket t1_j6junxl wrote
There are many flaws in your logic, but the germaine one here is you can run a restaurant that rips off its customers, employees and/or does other shady practices. Your restaurant might have good profit margins, and you can still be clueless about what it takes to run a good restaurant.
Ok-Title-270 t1_j6jzcdx wrote
That would not work, especially in the current day with availability of online reviews and the shortage of available labor. If you rip off customers they will leave poor reviews, leading to decreased business. Rip off employees and they will leave for a better situation.
>Your restaurant might have good profit margins, and you can still be clueless about what it takes to run a good restaurant
That's just a terribly stupid assertion. The margins are notoriously low in the restaurant industry so if you don't have a solid understanding of how to operate one you won't have high profit margins outside of very specific conditions such as captive audiences(pizza places in Vermont don't qualify). So if you care to fill me in on the non-germaine reasons I'm wrong let me know, but so far none of what you've said makes any sense
thunder-cricket t1_j6ngwcw wrote
So you think scummy people can't make it in today's restaurant business. That's cute. I think I'll pass on continuing with the many other reasons you're wrong. But thanks for the conversation.
RecycledAir t1_j6iwn5g wrote
What makes you say they are the same folks?
Ok-Title-270 t1_j6iwwmw wrote
Chronic complainers and that's the general sentiment on this sub
thunder-cricket t1_j6jleo3 wrote
So you're saying either food is affordable, or people who work in the food industry can't be paid a living wage. We can't have both. Meanwhile, the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans own 36 percent of the nation's wealth, and the wealthiest 10% own 75 percent of it.
Ok-Title-270 t1_j6jm3q8 wrote
>Meanwhile, the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans own 36 percent of the nation's wealth, and the wealthiest 10% own 75 percent of it.
A lot of them own small town pizza joints in Vermont?
thunder-cricket t1_j6jnf5c wrote
No. I'm saying the problem of soaring food prices and underpaid workers in the food industry isn't specific to Vermont pizza joints. I'm also saying, therefore, your point that we can either can have overpriced food or underpaid workers - whether in reference to pizza joints in Vermont or anywhere else - is a shitty one that obfuscates the real problem with the economy.
Ok-Title-270 t1_j6joy39 wrote
I didn't know we were having macroeconomics discussion about the fundamentals of our economy, which suck in many ways. My comment was about cause and effect in the current system
thunder-cricket t1_j6jphwg wrote
You said we have to choose between overpaid food or underpaid workers. That's bullshit. Find a better choice.
Ok-Title-270 t1_j6jrst1 wrote
Current reality that is the choice. That's true and I stand by the point which I can make without coming up with a new economic model for the USA
amoebashephard t1_j6khibo wrote
No, just crepe joints in Burlington
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