EveryDayIsAGif t1_j6hycqv wrote on January 30, 2023 at 1:41 PM

Reply to comment by reidfleming2k20 in Debating ranked-choice voting in Vermont by orange_wires

Personally I think that the "just don't get it" is a symptom which can be solved with education and time, especially education of children and young adults.

reidfleming2k20 t1_j6i1706 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 2:05 PM

The problem is that no municipality is going to train people for a voting system that they plan to implement in 20 years when they're old enough to vote.

A series of runoffs with separate dates seems like a pain in the ass, but at least you can be 100% sure that every vote cast was intentional.

EveryDayIsAGif t1_j6j02b7 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 5:57 PM

It sounds like you are remembering the gripes of the 2009 mayoral election in Burlington specifically? I would ask that you consider the many, many more success stories. Ranked-choice elects candidates who more accurately represent the will of the populace they govern and to me that is very worth the change

reidfleming2k20 t1_j6j3b17 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 6:18 PM

I saw what happened when Burlington tried very hard to educate the electorate about IRV and failed. It was only more obvious in that case because we ended up with a second Bob Kiss term, when it was obvious to most people that he was an utter disaster as mayor; but I'm sure that every similar election has people inadvertently voting for someone they don't actually like.

landodk t1_j6iy6e5 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 5:46 PM

Even in 2000 we weren’t sure if people voted for who they wanted