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TheClayroo t1_iyhezoz wrote

Reply to comment by hardingman in [ Removed by Reddit ] by Repulsive_Pound_714

HR is usually awesome in Canada. We actually have rights and usually the HR reps are the ones telling us what those are when a manager is being shitty.

In the US corporations run the country and unfortunately HR is the one who has to take shit from stupid people because rich people have become terrific at getting them to hate the wrong person and blame one of their peers for their problems. Again, only a stupid ignorant person would blame the HR person who is just doing their job for a terrible company based on the laws of the shitty state in the country they're in.

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Flexboiz t1_iyhm3pk wrote

I’m not sure what field or part of the country you’ve worked in, but I’ve worked at around 8 different companies here, and in 7/8 cases the HR team was implicated in poor treatment of employees while I was there, in some cases openly being dishonest with people.

One example I can give you directly was the open bait and switching of interns, where they would advertise a salary, wait until a week before the internship starts, and send the offer letter with 30% lower pay per hour. They gambled that interns wouldn’t reneg, and they never did. It was always “a clerical error” with the Job posting. This was for a tech internship for a company in Burnaby, BC.

Many of them were outwardly nice people. But, their job was, first and foremost, to protect the companies interest. The only exception to this rule was when I worked at a large company that had a huge unionized workforce.

I’m happy you have had positive experiences with HR, but there is no universal rule that distinguishes Canadian HR from American HR. We have slightly more workers rights here, but in comparison to Europe, it’s a joke.

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hardingman t1_iyhf4hu wrote

I’m in the UK and can second that usually our HR is awesome and fighting for the employees.

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MrSpindles t1_iyhfdgp wrote

I'm in the UK and have completely the opposite experience.

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hardingman t1_iyhfkcg wrote

It will always vary. I guess to qualify I work in tech which I know is its own bubble really on how ahead of the curve it is in its practices and focus on employee engagement and retention.

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Frisnfruitig t1_iyhiz5t wrote

Even in tech HR works for the company, not you. They care about their paycheck and the company's interests first and foremost. That doesn't mean they don't care about employee engagement and retention because that is also good for -again- the company.

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LisaNewboat t1_iyhk4lb wrote

Those sales guys don’t care about you they care about the company and their pay check.

Those maintenance guys don’t care about you they care about the company and their pay check.

It’s almost like that’s how everyone functions under capitalism.

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hardingman t1_iyhlsn8 wrote

Literally I’m not sure what people are thinking…

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Frisnfruitig t1_iyhn1nn wrote

I'm not sure what you are thinking if you believe HR fights for employees and not the company they work for.

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hardingman t1_iyhn9oz wrote

You can literally do both. What’s good for the goose is often good for the gander. Pushing to get better working practices, incentives and benefits also benefits you as someone in HR as well as helping your company improve retention.

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Frisnfruitig t1_iyhnn4o wrote

They can do both if it's in the company's interests but that's the best-case scenario.

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Frisnfruitig t1_iyhmoh6 wrote

I'm not sure what point you think you are making. He said that in the UK (or specifically in tech) HR "is awesome and fighting for the employees" when in fact they fight for the company and not the employees. They'll fight for the employees if it is in the company's best interest but that's it.

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Trenix t1_iyhigpt wrote

This is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read. I can't imagine paying someone to screw myself over.

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