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Gary_Vigoda t1_j1pi17d wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Quentin Tarantino responds to Kanye West saying Django Unchained was his idea by PineBarrens89
> Yes, yes he did
No, no he didn't.
He never said he wrote the plot, he just pitched the idea to use a slave theme for his video.
Tarantino said he had the idea earlier but he also confirms most of Kanye West's statement. Saying he had the idea earlier is not something anyone can prove or disprove however.
I'm not defending Kanye West. Dumb thing to try to take credit for personally, especially since the Django character was based on the earlier Mandingo movies from the 70s and Tarantino made his career by reviving Blaxploitation.
SophisticatedVagrant t1_j1pk2ip wrote
> Tarantino made his career by reviving Blaxploitation.
What? Tarantino made his name with Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction long before he did Jackie Brown.
Gary_Vigoda t1_j1pktt7 wrote
Reservoir Dogs isn't blaxploitation but True Romance and Pulp Fiction both rely on the stereotypes. Sam Jackson and Gary Oldman specifically. Blaxploitation is aimed at white youth consumers who love the urban image. Jackie Brown was just a blatant blaxploitation movie after people forgot why they were criticized in the past.
danteheehaw t1_j1pu2mg wrote
Blackspoitation movies were made by black people because black people kept getting shut out of hollywood. When they ended up becoming popular hollywood realized easy cheap movies aimed at black people were very profitable. They amped up the "exploitation" as time went on in typical fashion of movies trying to one up one another. Then like a lot of x-sploitation genres they died off as the themes of the genre naturally found there way into other films or avenues without being over the top. Occasionally a new one springs up that gains some traction.
Gary_Vigoda t1_j1pwmg7 wrote
Mario Van Peebles started the genre in the early 70s as a serious black film maker but Hollywood appropriated the genre to sell a dumbed down superficial version to white consumers who love all things 'black'.
This song is almost 100 years old.
White American youth were stuck going to church on Sunday, praying nightly, and being told pretty much everything fun is 'sinful'.
Meanwhile, 'black' people were partying, smoking weed, getting drunk, having sex, and making good music.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_record
Race records in the past were made by black artists then appropriated by the music industry who sold it to white kids who loved it and hated their parents, the church, their teachers, etc...
They turned anti-establishment and became rebel Hipsters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture)
Hollywood has been exploiting black people since Vaudeville & Minstrel shows. This was fairly common knowledge until the early 90s to be honest.
Jonsj t1_j1qhtrj wrote
I still don't understand how you can use appropriation about art and culture inspiring and developing off each other.
All artist, all culture is based on something else, usually inspired or formed by society around the artist. Do you suggest we fine comb all culture and artistic expression, lock it down and then form a committee shutting down anything that can be found anywhere else? We also have to find the earliest expression of that art form and make sure they keep the rights to make anything in that expression and everything else is banned.
Timmehtwotimes t1_j1pnx84 wrote
When you sjw so hard your brain turns off
Jumanji0028 t1_j1pykhp wrote
You think sjw's are defending the Nazi? That's funny.
Gary_Vigoda t1_j1pp8xg wrote
Opposite actually. This stuff was designed to pander to the 60s/70s version of 'social justice warriors'.
This scene from Fritz the Cat satirizes those types of people.
This Kids in the Hall skit satirizes the 90s version.
plomautus t1_j1pvg5k wrote
Hey american sjw, you claimed Tarantino made his career by reviving Blacksploitation. Prove it then, because all evidence points to him making it with Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and sementing it with Kill Bill.
Zakluor t1_j1qeykm wrote
>sementing
Is this when you use semen to join things together?
tobygeneral t1_j1rl6bh wrote
There WERE a lot of feet shots in KB, so it's possible.
plomautus t1_j1rzq1v wrote
No, you're thinking of arranged marriages.
Gary_Vigoda t1_j1rmr0c wrote
I'm not American or an SJW.
> Prove it then
You're on a sub devoted to 'white people' talking about a movie about slaves getting revenge against their southern masters.
Black people in the 80s were tired of this stuff back then.
> sementing
I normally ignore typos but how do you fuck up spelling cementing? If english isn't your native tongue, I'd understand.
plomautus t1_j1rzky4 wrote
>You're on a sub devoted to 'white people' talking about a movie about slaves getting revenge against their southern masters.
Weird didnt know r/videos was devoted to white people talking about slave revenge movies.
>I normally ignore typos but how do you fuck up spelling cementing? If english isn't your native tongue, I'd understand.
Cement kirjoitetaa suomeksi "sementti" joten meni ajattelematta sen enempää suomi ja englanti sekaisin koska c ja s kuulostaa pehmeänä lausuttuna melko samalta. Luulis kuitenki asiayhteydestä ymmärtänvän mitä tuolla tarkoitettiin.
Gary_Vigoda t1_j1rzwt1 wrote
Oh fuck around, I was mixed up in a argument over the same type of crap on that stupid wpt sub. Ha, my bad, apologies. I'm not even going to edit my mistake.
XO_WHORE_Llif3 t1_j1qx5ac wrote
If you can’t watch Pulp Fiction without being hyper fixated on race, you might be the racist
Gary_Vigoda t1_j1rhybf wrote
This came out in 1987 and satirized American's fixation with slave and ghetto movies.
Pulp Fiction came out in 1994 and played heavily off the same stereotypes Hollywood Shuffle criticized.
I'm not American. My observation is critical of Hollywood and left leaning Americans who eat this stuff up.
> If you can’t watch Pulp Fiction without being hyper fixated on race, you might be the racist
Everything you guys watch is about race. Even this stupid ass post is about a slave movie. I don't think it's me that has the race problem.
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