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No_Low_2541 t1_ixxmaqm wrote

If Ukraine conflict ends, would it help?

It seems both sides are on their last legs - Russians running out of weaponry and personnel, Ukrainians running out of support and - I would argue more importantly, an infrastructure that supports its population.

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[deleted] t1_ixxsyxc wrote

Spoiler: it’ll never end

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Tyreal t1_ixy2z95 wrote

Iraq, Vietnam and Afghanistan ended.

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[deleted] t1_ixy3f7f wrote

The conflict between North and South Korea has not ended.

The conflict between Israel and Palestine has not ended.

The conflict between Ukraine and Russia has not ended.

But it’s cool that we left Vietnam alone. Also extremely relevant (?)

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leeringHobbit t1_ixz8yd2 wrote

Because US tried to rule and not simply flatten the countries.

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OutOfBananaException t1_ixy33u9 wrote

Russian government revenue has been smashed, they won't be able to weather a costly war if that trend continues, regardless of what they might want.

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The_Bearjew_bottom t1_ixzdvzd wrote

Yes. Ukraine, the country without power, just needs to bide their time.

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OutOfBananaException t1_ixzhu2e wrote

Pretty much, as they keep receiving external support to fix power infrastructure, as well as ammunition - while Russia continues deplete cruise missiles and other critical military hardware that they cannot easily replace while sanctions are in place, and loses revenue with Europe moving away from Russian gas altogether.

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[deleted] t1_ixy3i7s wrote

Okay I’ll take your word for it

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OutOfBananaException t1_ixyf0t7 wrote

Don't need to take my word for it, data on revenue is straight from their ministry. https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-shrinking-budget-surplus-limits-putins-war-options-11668174524

"Data released by the Russian Ministry of Finance on Friday showed that in the year to October, the government budget surplus stood at 128 billion rubles, or around $2.1 billion, down from a surplus of 2.3 trillion rubles in the same period last year."

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[deleted] t1_ixzpuk4 wrote

Bruh. I read the same shit in March and I’ll read the same shit this coming March.

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OutOfBananaException t1_iy284tm wrote

Their budget surplus was massive in March, nobody could credibly say they couldn't fund the war at that time. That surplus has shrunk significantly since then, fundamentally different set of circumstances.

You cited Korean war as an example - how much does the Korean war cost their respective governments each year? Stuff all compared to what Russia is spending at the moment.

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[deleted] t1_iy28czp wrote

Okay dude they’re on their last legs. War is almost won by Ukraine

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OutOfBananaException t1_iy2hhle wrote

I didn't say Ukraine would win did I? I said it's a costly war and a resolution is likely to be reached sooner rather than later. Ukraine also doesn't have unlimited support, but it's looking like they may manage better than Russia.

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[deleted] t1_iy2i1o9 wrote

Okay whatever you say is what’ll happen. It’s almost over. The money is almost gone.

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OutOfBananaException t1_iy2ikla wrote

There is a big mother fucking difference between 'almost over' and 'will never end'. I never said it's almost over.

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x2eliah t1_ixxthmq wrote

Irrationally, yes, but realistically, no - Ukraine's industrial sector is essentially wiped out, and even after the war, Russian exports will remain widely sanctioned.

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leeringHobbit t1_ixz8uzi wrote

Looks like Russia is going to use missiles to flatten Ukraine instead of sending in troops to seize and hold.

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