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Old_Distribution9636 t1_j3lr85h wrote

Reply to comment by ekkidee in Car owners are always made to be a villain. by [deleted]

I can see your point. As a cyclist and part time pedestrian I get it. Safety is paramount. As a car driver I also get it. The roads are becoming more inconvenient with no solutions being proposed. Sounds like government is the true issue (or villain) then.

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rlpw t1_j3lwcu1 wrote

I’m curious to why you insist on blaming some other entity except drivers. It’s also curious that you would start this discussion after yesterdays post where a driver yelled racist comments at a biker trying to get a car out of a protected bike lane. It almost seems like you’re justifying the drivers racist remarks because they were driven by some other entity.

And I would also push back on your comment that the roads are “becoming more inconvenient.” They were always inconvenient for everyone except drivers. Now that we’re democratizing transit and making it equitable, drivers are realizing they have to share or give way more of the transit pie.

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djslarge t1_j3lx2v6 wrote

You’re surprised a person who drives a car in a walkable city like DC is deflecting?

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rlpw t1_j3m2f4f wrote

Never said I was surprised. But I’d like them to be more explicit about their victim blaming.

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Old_Distribution9636 t1_j3lxf4q wrote

Oh yeah, transit is NOT equitable in this city.

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rlpw t1_j3o2q43 wrote

Driving is included in “transit” but I assume you mean “mass” and “micro-mobility” transit. Driving is definitely not equitable when you consider the mounting costs, regulations, and responsibilities that driving entails.

Currently mass- and micro-transit are not equitable because of lack of access and emphasis on the needed infrastructure, much of which is caused by the car-centric culture that developed in the US for a myriad of reasons.

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Old_Distribution9636 t1_j3lxcez wrote

  1. Because I can.

  2. This group consistently downvotes everything car related.

  3. If you want to correlate that to prejudiced comments then go for it. Assume intent all you want.

  4. No DC driver will tell you this city is convenient. It literally was built to be inconvenient.

  5. You say blame, I say common ground. I can separate my opinion from reality to try to understand. Can you?

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rlpw t1_j3m27dk wrote

With the way you framed and included negative affect in your original post - I’d argue you don’t separate your opinion from your argument.

You’re frustrated with “inconvenience” while cyclists and pedestrians are “frustrated” with lack of safety and non-car transit options.

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202markb t1_j3lwwpn wrote

Everyone just needs to take a breath and slow down- physically (the new 20mph default speed limit is great!) and emotionally. Nothing is so important as to risk carelessly injuring another. The government isn’t to blame- we are.

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jaco1001 t1_j3mc8t8 wrote

why on earth would you assume no solutions are being proposed? there are lots of solutions being proposed. You just dont know them because you're a johnny come lately to an issue you are not familiar with.

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rlpw t1_j3o33rc wrote

Because those solutions inconvenience OP 😂

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erodari t1_j3o7upy wrote

>Sounds like government is the true issue

It's not government - it's bad policy. Decades of poor decision-making has led to the growth of communities where driving is the only viable means of transportation, resulting in its overuse and the road congestion we see today in much of the country. But look around at the rest of the world. Governments in other places took a more balanced approach to building their cities and suburbs. For example, the Dutch made it their policy to grow their communities in a way that made walking, biking, etc. viable alternatives.

So don't let yourself succumb to the knee-jerk reaction of 'government is the problem'. If you care enough about the issue to post a complaint like this, research what specific things the government has done that led to this situation, and identify and support alternatives.

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Ok_Concentrate_75 t1_j3m9af8 wrote

Sociologists call it "false consciousness " when 2 opposing but similar groups rather war with each other than those people/issues making them go to war.

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