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venomm1123 t1_j9ise1q wrote

Reply to comment by TheBusStop12 in Dutch intelligence services have warned that Russia is "covertly mapping" key energy infrastructure in the North Sea, in preparation for possible sabotage attacks. by green_flash

> All of NATO came along when the US triggered article 5 after 9/11 to invade Afghanistan without proper proof (everyone nowadays knows it was mostly Saudi Arabian people behind the attack)

Osama bin Laden was physically in Afghanistan and Afghanistan received an ultimatum requesting to hand him over to the US, which they refused.

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Quackagate t1_j9iv941 wrote

Ehh they offered to turn him over if we recognized them as the legitimate government of Afghanistan. O how the would would be different if we had took that path

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venomm1123 t1_j9iykkk wrote

When dealing with sociopaths, "yes if (condition)" means no. It is a test of your naivete. This is basically a fundamental part of criminal mind and traces all the way to game theory.

Would one be stupid enough to actually agree and recognize Taliban? If one is indeed naive, then they'll make sure to apologize profusely once Mr. bin Laden escapes right after you recognized Taliban.

In fact, they'll be so sorry that they will promise they'll spare no effort in finding him IF (another condition)

The length of this sequence is limited only by the stupidity of the mark.

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ringobob t1_j9klonj wrote

How about "the US is prepared to recognize anyone who hands Bin Laden over to us as de facto leaders of Afghanistan at the point of transfer. Go. We'll be making a trophy."

Tongue firmly planted in cheek, if that wasn't obvious to anyone.

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venomm1123 t1_j9l91xx wrote

I believe the very desire to get into these word games means you are already tricked. It's the wrong approach.

You know the Aesop's fable of "The Wolf and the Lamb"? https://read.gov/aesop/063.html

When talking to a wolf, it is not about the word games. It is about whether you look like a lamb, or a grizzly bear.

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ringobob t1_j9lcx71 wrote

Hence the tongue in cheek. I agree with you.

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