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Wear-Fluid t1_jaa7rsp wrote

Macron has shown time & again that he is a complete idiot. He is still better than that fascist lady was but... Idiot.

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AllomancersAnonymous t1_jaae3b2 wrote

Please explain because all I see is a guy that has been instrumental in getting critical military aid to the Ukrainians.

Remember that France was the number one supplier of military aid to Ukraine from 2014 up to the eve of the current invasion.

The French supplied Caesars are arguably the best artillery system the Ukrainians have short of the HIMARS and have been instrumental in the war.

And then Macron got the snowball rolling on western tanks by pledging the AMX-10...

U mad because he engages in diplomacy at the same time he facilitates weapons to Ukraine?

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Wear-Fluid t1_jaaecc7 wrote

He believed Putin when he said he wouldn’t invade & while staying in close contact with Putin suggested that Ukraine give up more land for peace & now this. I know I’m missing a few others but I don’t think they relate to the war.

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AllomancersAnonymous t1_jaaenne wrote

His belief that the invasion wouldn't actually happen didn't stop him from sending military aid to the Ukrainians in the event he was wrong...

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whitehusky t1_jaaw1qi wrote

But what he’s doing here is (1) calling their bluff, and (2) playing “good cop” which is what France’s role almost always is with Russia and China. He’s basically telling China - “You want to end the war? Great. So do we. Go tell Russia to stop attacking Ukraine, and the war will be over and you will have helped the West.” Everyone knows China can’t do that, so… calling the bluff. It’s a smart strategy, and closer to what Ukraine itself is doing, because it’s a win/win. Either China doesn’t stop Russia, in which case China is called out for their hypocrisy on the world stage, or somehow they achieve the impossible and get Russia to pull out of Ukraine, pay reparations etc.

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BuffaloOk7264 t1_jabzaw6 wrote

Thank you for giving value to what I perceived as problematic French position. The vagaries of international diplomacy often confuse me.

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Kitchen_Pride6726 t1_jab1po7 wrote

Why can't China stand on Ukraine's side? Know that this country faced the same situation 70 years ago, when they were on the side of aggression, their legitimacy disappeared

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der_titan t1_jabkbgr wrote

>Why can't China stand on Ukraine's side?

Because China benefits if Russia and NATO countries waste money and resources fighting one another. Most of the world outside Europe view the war as a local one, and there's little appetite to go out on a limb for Ukraine.

Moral arguments tend to ring hollow in many ears when western military aggression in Asia, in Africa, and in Latin America have been going on for decades.

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DragonflyMon83 t1_jaa823g wrote

Yeah, he's an idiot but I do not want to imagine that putin lady being in power. Never.

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Wear-Fluid t1_jaa88et wrote

big same on that lady lol.

Macron has just suggested some really dumb shit since the Ukraine war started.

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DragonflyMon83 t1_jaa8jlx wrote

Yeah but if she won, there would be no help for ukraine and fucks knows what more bad things to europe and the world.

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DNA1987 t1_jabst4l wrote

He is weirdo with a massive ego. I wouldn't say he is idiot, he is serving his own interests. He once said france should stop keeping nukes, that there was no need and it was to expensive to maintain. He was for dismentelment of our nuclear facilities, maybe in favor of russian gaz ? Hight enery cost in europe, he play his part of it with half of our power plan shut down for "maintenance" right when the war started. We used to sell cheap electricity to Eu, now we need to import it from coal :) Lots of Eu politicians are bribe by russian gaz lobby. He is somewhat friend with putin, they went in holiday together before the war. Russians are buying some key nuclear maintenance companies in France. There is so much stuff going on that the news are not covering, this will probably start a few scandales when he stop been president.

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