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autotldr t1_jeas37k wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 84%. (I'm a bot)

> "There are some who don't wish us to have relations with an old historical friend. We have made it clear that Russia is a friend, and we have had cooperative partnerships for many, many years," Pandor said.

> Pretoria has doubled down on its relations with Moscow amid growing calls to isolate Russia following its deadly invasion of Ukraine.

> In the meeting with the Russians on Thursday, Pandor highlighted South Africa's long-standing diplomatic relations with Russia.

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monkeywithgun t1_jeasp19 wrote

SA's alliance with evil practices has a long history. This is just their latest foray into being on the wrong side of history yet again.

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wwarnout t1_jeay163 wrote

The US should make it clear that SA is, therefore, no longer a friend or ally.

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macross1984 t1_jeb1bxp wrote

Well, SA will find out they picked wrong side again.

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TimeAloneSAfrican t1_jebcx5t wrote

Sadly this is the stance of the ANC, not SA. Unfortunately they are the voice for SA

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Yelmel t1_jebxxpj wrote

That's what I'd say if I wanted to be the one to arrest Putin the wanted war criminal.

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eadgar t1_jebywm8 wrote

With friends like that who needs enemies

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nariusone t1_jecap2g wrote

Ok, so now you are enemy to the rest of the world. Got it.

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QubitQuanta t1_jecc3po wrote

Replying to nariusone (#2,506,005)

Not really

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/30/ukraine-war-how-russias-support-is-growing-in-the-developing-world.html

Only if you consider 'rest of world' to be the 13% of the global population that consists of EU/America/European Colony/American Vassal states.

The global south, BRICS, including the two largest countries in the world by population - all support Russia. Given BRICS has a large economy that EU + US now, economic support also leans on SA's side.

A more correct thing to say is that they are now an enemy of the established world order.

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Magicalsandwichpress t1_jecgd8n wrote

We get it there could only be one narrative, and history is obviously on the side of US. This is worst than Soviet propaganda at its mightiest.

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QubitQuanta t1_jed72ib wrote

Replying to krtshv (#2,514,543)

Ah, its greatest hearing the so-called champion of democracy deciding that its $$ that talks, and that people mean nothing. I suppose that is pretty much American democracy in a nutshell.

But even if we can go buy your measure of money is king:

https://www.silkroadbriefing.com/news/2023/03/27/the-brics-has-overtaken-the-g7-in-global-gdp

BRICS has overtaken the G7 is GDP. SA is still standing in the side of global support.

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krtshv t1_jedaqp0 wrote

Replying to QubitQuanta (#2,514,915)

Population matters in the matters of state. In a country that is a democracy.

The world, as a whole, isn't a democracy. World wide decisions aren't made according to population.

And the G7 isn't the entire west, just as the entire east (or w/e you want to call it) isn't just BRICS. The west, as a whole, still has a more powerful economy.

In the end, it's "made in China" (or India) because they're cheap labor for the west to purchase.

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tiktaktok_65 t1_jedeeao wrote

Replying to QubitQuanta (#2,514,915)

as if the majority of people isn't driven by money, power and status as well. exploitation is as old as human history and no one is innocent - we all contribute our share to human suffering. as for BRICS overtaking Western GDP let's see what happens a couple of decades down the road when climate change has had a chance starting to erode wide areas around the equator or sea levels start rising requiring tremendous investments to reallocate major urban areas. once people start dying like flies because corruption won't help you escape heat, drought, rain, storms, poverty, bad infrastructure and solve the problems of a lack of food and water supply we will see how BRICS are going to help each other. when everything goes to shit everyone turns on everyone, that is the only truth about human civilisation, doesn't matter what direction of the compass points at you.

also: gdp on itself is meaningless as a value for comparison. you compare gdp per capita. BRICS have a lot of catching up to do.

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gthchem t1_jeditbk wrote

Makes me want to buy a diamond.

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bhuddistchipmonk t1_jedotr5 wrote

They support the Palestinians and now the Russians. They sure know how to pick ‘em…

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