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[deleted] t1_jcgrykq wrote

Reply to comment by x_is_mad in French president uses special power to enact pension bill without vote by CapableSecretary420

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adamexcoffon t1_jcgx6kk wrote

What's the point of having an assembly of deputies elected by the people if when they don't want a law, you just pass it anyway ?

Economics are not only maths (or there would be only one right way to do things), but also political orientation and other solutions exist to this peculiar problem.

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We3Dboy t1_jch3pcz wrote

What solutions can u mention? Lower the pensions? Raise tax? Cut spendings elsewhere? Almost any other option is not gonna be supported by people, im not for this legislature but sometimes shit has to be done no matter how unpopular it is, im not saying that this is the best way, but its better to do something about it than to do nothing and let the next politician make the hard choicee when the problem is only getting worse each year... Life expectancy is higher than it was when the old age requirements was made... I would prefer raising tax for the rich to fund the problem, but i dont think it would help longterm

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adamexcoffon t1_jch6e12 wrote

The problem with pensions is a short/middle term problem. On the long term (2030 and after), the pension balance will be more (not absolutely) equilibrate because of baby-boomers population decaying. You could find money other ways for that kind of problem... Since it's not a systemic dysfunctionality but a contextual one linked to a demographic conjecture.

This is not the heroic act of a responsible president. This is one politician and his crew abusing the vices of a non-democratic system made for one long-dead man, to achieve a peculiar political agenda oriented towards one politico-economic ideology. And people are right to be mad.

But I will say also that I personally think this anger is not proportionate to the problem. It's a conjunction of decades of this behaviour from governments, of an impotence feeling, the retrograde politics, the sentiment to never be listened, to be handcuffed in elections, etc... All of this exploding to the face of these men and women. They pay for their own mistakes but also for others'.

Post scriptum : life expectancy is higher for well-being people. It doesn't raise amongst the poorest. I'm asking myself how the carpenter I've worked with last summer will go on to 62 already, with his back ruined.

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PublicFurryAccount t1_jclkfoq wrote

People ignore this a lot.

The problem with pensions is very temporary, it’s all just a question of when Boomers start dying off. And it’s even more aggressively temporary because the generation after is much much smaller.

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PublicFurryAccount t1_jcgzc5k wrote

It was done because he couldn’t get it past the legislature, not because of the economy.

Fact is, Macron has acted anti-democratically and it’s time for him to go.

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Thoushaltdenycheese t1_jcliius wrote

What’s with French Presidents? It seems every 8ish years a president that was decent becomes an absolute garbage leader.

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