SendGock t1_jdxndee wrote on March 27, 2023 at 11:03 PM

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The support in a poll means nothing if it doesn't show in legislature or culture. Which it doesn't. I think they have won, and while it's still worth fighting, the reality is far grimmer.

Also looking like, thanks to the RESTRICT act, any future conservative president will be able to ban any and all queer positive stuff from all social media.

Superb_Nature_2457 t1_jdxoh7x wrote on March 27, 2023 at 11:11 PM

It does show in culture. At least from what I’ve seen and experienced. It absolutely sucks that conservatives have decided to use us as the new scapegoat, but we now have representation and acceptance I never dreamed of when I was a kid. I openly wept the day I finally admitted who I was to myself because I was convinced no one would ever know what being non-binary is and no one would ever love a non-binary person, and now we have non-binary politicians, non-binary romance on popular shows, allies willing to fight alongside us, etc. The Govenor of Kentucky vetoed an anti-trans bill. Kentucky. 10 years ago, I would have called you insane for even suggesting that possibility.

This shit lost them 2022, and based on the polls, it’s about to lose them 2024 the same way. Way too many people now know out LGBTQ folks or have LGBTQ family members. These assholes have been exploiting a broken system for decades. They were exactly this deadly and hateful to every other minority who’s been in their sights. Americans are tired of it. You Americans especially. Even their own supporters — the real people, not the bots and grifters — are starting to recognize that this shit is a distraction.

SendGock t1_jdxsexa wrote on March 27, 2023 at 11:40 PM

I wanna believe, but I am in the opposite camp where I understand Trans people are actively under the threat or actually being genocided currently in America.

I mean in TN trans people have been banned from going in public.

Superb_Nature_2457 t1_jdy122u wrote on March 28, 2023 at 12:43 AM

Yeah, no doubt it’s grim, but they were always going to try this shit. They’re also attacking cis women or anyone else with a uterus, minorities, etc. Folks see the writing on the wall.

The other saving grace is that we have a better alternative to offer. We have the labor movement, and that legit has the chance to unify people. We have a common cause to rally around.

SendGock t1_jdxy8m2 wrote on March 28, 2023 at 12:23 AM

And to follow up. That shooter really fucked trans people hard. They now have a piece of evidence in their claim that trans people are a threat to children and broader society as a whole. They will use this as justification to ban trans people total access to schools, to take away their guns, and to commit retributive justice against LGBTQ+ people. But It doesn't need to be true for lawmakers to take away trans rights, and for fascists to step up their street violence. No matter what, people are going to try and make this about trans people being inherently violent. This is going to either cause people to want us to be disarmed, or it's going to cause violence.

This could be their Reichstag Fire moment, to no longer just encourage isolation but to advocate for full genocide.

Superb_Nature_2457 t1_jdy0o0c wrote on March 28, 2023 at 12:41 AM

Yeah, it’s certainly a scary time, but the way I see it, those people were always going to find an excuse to hate us and try to kill us. It’s probably morbid, but I made peace with that a long time ago. Realistically though, this could also be like every other American mass shooting: a statistic and forgotten within a week.