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FutureImminent t1_je4yqel wrote

Oh good now they can confirm what we already knew that Ukraine are using the Western wespons on the battlefield.

A few months ago they were spreading their propanganda of Ukraine only using 15% of aid and selling off the rest. Which made me wonder how come Russia hadn't overrun them yet considering they are heavility dependent on these weapons.

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powe808 t1_je51kpe wrote

They also claimed to have destroyed 200% of Ukraine's HIMARS systems.

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AltNationReality t1_je51ryb wrote

Yeah, it's a stupid statement..... "They only use 15% of their arms..... and they are STILL kicking our ass."

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Timey16 t1_je56orz wrote

It's like the cope that the Moskva was sunk by a storm...

You mean your navy is SO shit that even a basic bitch spring storm that doesn't even show up on radars is enough to take out your flagship?

Literally all their attempts to make Ukraine look less successful just makes them look MORE incompetent.

And I dunno about you, but I'd rather lose to an opponent's competence and skill rather than due to my own incompetence.

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assjackal t1_je5rogp wrote

It's the same level of hypocrisy we see in US right wing heads. It's not how it makes them look, it's just filling the airwaves with nonsensical bullshit in order to keep people's energy wasted on debunking it.

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TimeZarg t1_je5yiko wrote

Sounds like projection on their part. Using 15% and selling the rest is exactly what I would expect Russian military personnel to try getting away with.

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colefly t1_je6gpif wrote

Russia WISHES it was 15%

For instance , on PAPER Russia has 10,000 T-72 MBTs and have "only" lost 1200

So is Russia just mobilizing thousands more T-72s to fill all the losses?

No... They're also being forced to dig up arcane T-54s and shipping them to the front

15%? It's closer to 85% for Russia

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Lee1138 t1_je723p5 wrote

Ah yes, the mythical 10k T-72s. That were stored outside in Siberia. That the base commander stole the maintenance money from? The ones that the mechanics ripped out the optics and fire control systems out of and sold on the black market? The ones the sergeants sold the ERA blocks out off on the black market? And the ones the privates ripped the wires out of so they could sell the copper to the scrap dealer for vodka money? Those 10k T-72s?

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shividos t1_je99a7w wrote

So what they should do with their t-54 if it still works, just utilize? I think its pretty good for researching and baiting ammos, when ammos is in deficit and costs some money.

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colefly t1_jeawcdv wrote

> So what they should do with their t-54 if it still works, just utilize? I think its pretty good for researching and baiting ammos, when ammos is in deficit and costs some money.

makes perfect sense... so long as the T-54s are in "like new" working order and dont need effort to get running AND you dont value those inside the wildly obsolete steel coffin

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DayOfDingus t1_je5284i wrote

The problem with existential crisis like what Ukraine is facing is it seems to dramatically decrease corruption. If not using these weapons as they were intended and instead selling them to someone else will possibly lead to your death and destruction of your culture you're much less likely to sell them. Sure some absolute scumbags might not give a shit and sell it for short term gain but it's much less likely making that propaganda laughable.

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acebandaged t1_je6l1vr wrote

It's also strongly encouraging the ukranian govt to clean house and crack down HARD on corruption in order to keep arms and money flowing. Their continued existence depends on weeding out the assholes, so it'll be interesting how long it takes to change the culturally accepted level of corruption in peacetime.

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