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WexfordHo t1_iufpetp wrote

Well it’s about goddamned time, they’ve only been arming and training terrorists for decades. What next, are we finally going to admit that the Pakistani ISI runs the Taliban through the Haqqani Network?

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No-Ask7043 t1_iuft7q3 wrote

It’s a bit more complicated because it’s a division of the Iranian military, and labeling them all (and previous members) as terrorists doesn’t allow for the necessary diplomatic outcome most countries (especially western) would prefer to direct confrontation with Iran- almost no one wants that. Canada recently imposed targeted blacklisting of the ING leadership (and more) which seems more effective in the big picture (if the big picture is Iranian regime change, which is the only pragmatic outcome, and what most of the West and their allies want). The last thing you want to do here is isolate or radicalize low level conscripts if the goal is regime change through a domestic uprising (which is currently the best hope). Real Polik, and supporting the citizens against their authoritarian theocratic government is a million times preferable to direct confrontation with the Iranian regime. War with Iran will make the Iraq war look like a walk in the park. https://www.iranintl.com/en/202210075689

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MadDjinn t1_iufz6pr wrote

Slightly more complicated is that Canada has listed the IRGC-Qods force as terrorists for years.

It’s actually odd that the rest isn’t considered a terrorist organization, given Hezbollah (in Lebanons government) is listed as such.

Distinguishing the IRGC from the regular military, and the President/government from the Clerics, is a solid path forward to define the problems in that country.

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Culverin t1_iuh1tyi wrote

What's your take that Canada should be doing? I can't do much to shape the world,

But I would be happy to give my MP an earful if you point me in the right direction.

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Seriksy t1_iuhf0tc wrote

The US can just activate the Stuxnet and shut down the Iranian infrastructure. They probably have it lying there dormant as they did before they wanted to test it out some years ago.

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Double_Ad_2824 t1_iuhtiny wrote

The same infrastructure that's required for the protests? That seems counter intuitive, especially since the Iranian leadership will probably claim responsibility and name it a consequence/punishment.

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MelaatsenVerplaatser t1_iuh5npi wrote

Well so has the EU and US.

As they say, don't throw rocks when you livee in glass houses.

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C_Madison t1_iuiv9y8 wrote

Iran is free to designate some of our institutions as terrorists if they want. Given the international influence of Iran compared to EU/US ... yeah, I don't think cares much.

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IdiotOutside t1_iuh6f57 wrote

US runs Taliban through ISI through Haqqani Netwlrk. Corrected for you.

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SympathyOver1244 t1_iugfu80 wrote

The same Haqqani network funded by U.S?

Declare U.S a terrorist state while you're at it...

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WexfordHo t1_iugggea wrote

Times change, the Haqqani network was an ally against the Soviets, and then they turned to terrorism. Now they aren’t US funded, they’re Pakistani funded and led. Times change, but I suppose you just want to play a game of whataboutism for… reasons.

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helix_ice t1_iugw4r0 wrote

The HN never changed their tactics, the only thing that changed is who backed them.

Their classification going from freedom fighters to terrorists is purely a political issue.

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WexfordHo t1_iui73zl wrote

If you say so, but I think the difference between fighting off a foreign invader on your own land, and attacking civilians a world away really is pretty different. If you feel otherwise I’d love to hear how you think that is.

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helix_ice t1_iuinap1 wrote

It's a matter of both political interests, and perception.

The first leads to the second. Let's say 9/11 occurred in China, and the Chinese invaded Afghanistan and occupied it for 20 years, would the west be sympathetic to China? Maybe in the beginning, but considering the increased tensions between the west anf China, I bet we could have seen US intelligence funding those same groups that the US itself fought against in Afghanistan.

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WexfordHo t1_iuing1k wrote

The terrorism in question when talking about Afghanistan isn’t anything they did after the US invasion, it’s about harboring OBL and AQ.

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MelaatsenVerplaatser t1_iuh5shv wrote

Do you believe your own propaganda?

"Then turned to terrorism" lmao.

Why did you think we funded them? To do terrorism against the soviets.

Edit: lol another coward replying with lies and then blocking so i cannot respond.

Pathetic.

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WexfordHo t1_iui70g3 wrote

The Soviets invaded Afghanistan, and the Afghanis fought them on their own land. You think that’s the same as harboring AQ and providing them a base to plan and launch attacks on the US and EU?

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hardtobeuniqueuser t1_iuh9qyl wrote

> then they turned to terrorism

because what they were doing before totally wasn't terrorism, because the right* people were happy they did it

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WexfordHo t1_iui6syn wrote

Do you really not understand the difference between attacking people invading your country, and harboring the people and training camps for those who would later reach out across continents and an ocean to attack another country that they weren’t at war with?

REALLY? That’s what you’re going for?

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BandsAndCommas t1_iuhvdhu wrote

lol this comment is such bullshit, US didn’t care until their purpose was over

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SympathyOver1244 t1_iugpgbn wrote

U.S have an old & boring tactic to throw its allies under the bus whenever it suits their agenda...

This is evident in the case of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia quite recently, and even Iraq + Saddam Hussein...

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HerYams t1_iuggf4z wrote

Ssshhh only the CIA is allowed to fund terrorists at will.

/s

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Confident_Fly1612 t1_iuggwut wrote

Europe has a history of turning two blind eyes to Islamic terrorists.

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hardtobeuniqueuser t1_iuh9uak wrote

how blind can your eyes be when you're training someone to do exactly what you pretend you don't want to see?

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