Submitted by BezugssystemCH1903 t3_yz87ph in worldnews
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Wizywig t1_iwzwzgj wrote
Whoever is doing this it's tiny groups being crazy effective.
geotalker2 t1_ix0l8tx wrote
Keep protesting don't stop till we get what we want
Quasisafar-y t1_ix0w9ai wrote
Start protesting would help. What ever this movement is ain't protesting it's good old virtue signalling. Just stop oil? WTAF? When protesting its imperative you have a goal. Apparently theirs is just stop oil? How? Just let people fucking starve? Every facet of life requires oil if we just stopped it we would all die, it's just not a valid argument and I'd bet its state sponsored. Get them riled up on something impossible, a fool's errand.
Quasisafar-y t1_ix0qib2 wrote
Can we fine banks for blocking entry to a free and fair monetary system?
Tbf we have BTC and all we can do is HODL. HODL is literally eating away at our monetary freedom every day and that's our own doing so horse to water and a that.
Quasisafar-y t1_ixe15vd wrote
Honestly I want to agree with you soooooo bad, really. I just can't hide from the horrible truth of reality. Dammed if we do dammed if we don't.
However there is one caveat to all this, if we do decide to "just stop oil" and you do all die because of lack of infrastructure then the planet will still carry one and the few that did survive (all the rich and hardy) can carry on nicely so you better have a plan for that.
If we go full throttle and no surrender in the fossil fuels then it's the same thing planet survives but probably fewer survivors and take longer to recover .
There is a middle ground to all of this though.
StakedCryptoWarrior t1_iwyr9ao wrote
I've never met a radical environmentalist who didn't have (obvious) psych issues.
ow12497 t1_iwzizdq wrote
And I've never met a crypto fan who wasn't (obviously) clinically insane.
Quasisafar-y t1_ix0ua34 wrote
Crypto is literally a short cut out of all this shit but people have been fooled and jaded by it all. It's been manipulated by the corporate world but as a tool for financial freedom it's still good. However, I definitely see where you are coming from and yeah it does seem a lot of the "diamond hands" movement have lost their fucking minds, it's a shame.
No-Air3090 t1_ix0wswe wrote
crypto is literally a short cut out of all this shit... what a load of crap.. you obviously know nothing about the energy used per transaction and the effect that has on the environment. do some bloody research and look at the cost of each bitcoin transaction... just as an example
Quasisafar-y t1_ix11ve0 wrote
I knew this was going to come up at least. Not sure how its obvious and if you knew what you was on about you would of had a figure to put out and not tell me to do research. 1 ethereum transaction is equal to about 22 Visa transactions energy wise. Mining uses a lot yes but it's not a payment system it's whole monetary system for the whole planet and once its mined we stop, fiat never stops. Transactions with the real cryptoplayers use fuck all energy compared to the big boys of fiat. Seriously running rhetoric your read from state sponsored fear mongery makes you a pawn on the wrong side of progression. This seems like I'm being a dick, I'm not trying to be it's just the same old shit and the people that spout it have never actually done the so called research. We are only humans I get that but at least ensure your thoughts are your own.
Quasisafar-y t1_ix0skix wrote
I mean the word radical does have certain connotations so I am inclined to agree. Extremes of any sort shouldn't be tolerated. If an extremist has a good point , accept it and adjust accordingly, don't join their divisions, cause that is all you will be divided.
bornagainteen t1_ixb3fiu wrote
If we don’t join radical climate activists, there won’t be any division. This is because we will all be dead.
dannyboi9393 t1_iwyrwbq wrote
Nobody gives a shit about the planet... But money on the other hand.