Submitted by DoremusJessup t3_z809wt in worldnews
They do seem to have been dealt a bad hand.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)
> The head of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces said on Tuesday he still feared a Turkish ground invasion despite US assurances and has demanded a "Stronger" message from Washington after seeing unprecedented Turkish deployments along the border.
> "There are reinforcements on the border and within Syria in areas controlled by factions allied to Turkey. We noticed this and, yes, this is new," SDF chief Mazloum Abdi told Reuters by phone from Syria.
> Syria sees Turkey as an occupying force in its north and Damascus has said it would consider any new Turkish incursions as "War crimes".
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After ww1, the Turks repeatedly offered to hold a referendum in the region, which the British and French refused.
>After World War I and the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, the victorious Western allies made provision for a Kurdish state in the 1920 Treaty of Sèvres. However, that promise was broken three years later, when the Treaty of Lausanne set the boundaries of modern Turkey and made no such provision, leaving Kurds with minority status in all of the new countries.
What are you trying to start an argument with? I’m stating the Western allies made provision for a Kurdish state in the 1920 Treaty of Sèvres. That promise was broken three years later, with the Treaty of Lausanne.
Your point is that they’ve always been minorities? That the Turks, descended from the Ottomans, lay lawful claim to large swaths of what is now other countries?
Dude, stop. I get it, you’re juicing yourself for something but can you not have compassion for a people who have had a long history of discrimination perpetrated against them? Can you blame a peoples who just want a place they are safe?
You’re making those points, you’re the magician creating an issue out of nothing right now.
Good night, Sir.
His point is the Kurds got fucked over solely on the premise the treaty was put into place by TPTB and then rescinded with no recourse.
This is to say NOTHING of any other mitigating factors you mentioned such as ethnicity, history, and which side feels they are right and who is wrong. It's a contained statement. Treaty made. Treaty not upheld.
Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. Further more, why r you so hostile on a reddit forum?
Oh yeah, it's a Reddit forum.
We're crushing the worlds 2nd largest military power with our pocket change and outdated equipment by proxy, I think we'll be fine.
On the other hand, the Turks also repressed Kurdish language, dress, folklore, and names by law for decades so I’m not sure whether the referendums were genuine.
Imagine if your country signed a law that defined terrorism as "any kind of action with the aim of changing characteristics of the Republic". That essentially criminalizes political activism and many basic forms of expression.
Give us something to protect. Go talk to your people.
You didn’t know? PKK got a face lift, they are OK now because they serve US interests.
Crushed? They are still going?
How convenient...
With men with medical issues and from prison, few rations, an incompetent chain of Command and most of their approximate missiles depleted.
They're going limping
RockyUndBullwinkle t1_iy93wlj wrote
Reads like the remnants of WW1. Turks got the lands the Kurds were promised, making the Kurds minorities in the new countries that popped up. Now everyone in that region hates the Kurds because they want to achieve what was promised but taken from them.