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Phishtravaganza t1_iybqxl2 wrote
We will notify Putin that we have held a referendum.
saintdev t1_iybrtu6 wrote
Putin has recorded your NOYES vote.
Future-Studio-9380 t1_iybrsi2 wrote
As a representative of the Uzbek delegation, I concur.
OldMork t1_iybyaft wrote
high five!
TronOld_Dumps t1_iybo49v wrote
They could call it the pack-of-stan's
hieronymusanonymous OP t1_iybl74s wrote
>Russian President Vladimir Putin has proposed creating a "gas union" with Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan to establish a mechanism to ship natural gas between the three countries and to other nations, including China.
The mechanism:
What is mine is yours, what is yours is mine, and what is mine - don't touch.
- Russian proverb
SlothOfDoom t1_iyboeem wrote
A Union, yes. It can be controlled by councils of workers, in a social manner. If it does well it could be it's own republic. Excellent, yes, a united soviet socialist repu.....wait a minute.
chrisLivesInAlaska t1_iybqua0 wrote
In other words, Russia needs help from Kazakhstan and Uzbrkistan to sell Russian gas.
Mirathecat22 t1_iybmbkm wrote
I’m willing to bet neither want to be in partnership with Russia when they can do better without them.
And with Russias weakening global position both politically and militarily the threat of an invasion like Ukraine isn’t as likely, and they know they’d get support from western backed countries in the same event.
It’s an interesting time.
Morfildur t1_iyc7xy0 wrote
Both countries are in a difficult spot. They have plenty of resources, but they're essentially land-locked, so exporting those resources is very difficult.
It would make sense that they're looking for neighbours to export through and for those the only one's with sea access for large scale global exports are Russia, China and (via the caspian sea) Iran. Not exactly the best partners to have.
The closest Chinese sea port is around 3000km from their border. The closest Russian sea port is less than 1000km away.
They have the choice of not exporting and staying poor or making a deal with one of the devils around them.
Mirathecat22 t1_iycdioz wrote
I don’t disagree here, however Kazakhstan at the very least has already been shipping oil/gas (I don’t specifically remember which natural resource it was) through to Azerbaijan, while I don’t like Azerbaijan too much (mainly their government) it can be a big step in the right direction away from Russia for multiple countries. Especially if Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan want to move away from Russias influence, and recent times suggest they do, especially Kazakhstan moving away from the Cyrillic alphabet in favour of the Latin alphabet.
maisaktong t1_iybswio wrote
Putin: “So, you don't like the Soviet Union? How about Natural Gas Union?”
WhoStoleMyPassport t1_iybv5kf wrote
So Russian politicians say that Kazakhstan is next and that it needs Denatzification and now they want a alliance?
RoyH0bbs t1_iybmd6e wrote
A Union until it’s not.
chessictv t1_iybnz7s wrote
They fart in our general direction.
macross1984 t1_iybojte wrote
Union to Russian eyes only. Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, thanks but no thank you!
Rellgidkrid t1_iybqrib wrote
I proposed the same with my wife and my sheets
TeddyBadgr t1_iybug3o wrote
Don’t do it it’s a Trap!
Last_Summer6057 t1_iyd273x wrote
Oh Dear, Putins making a grab for Resources again...
ScientistNo906 t1_iybni6n wrote
Will they also agree to sell their natgas to China and India at a discount?
krumpdawg t1_iybu407 wrote
How do you know the kremlin is lying? They're lips re moving.
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The kremlins words mean nothing, who in their right mind would want to do business with those who have eroded all their trustworthiness.
Rare_Swordfish3898 t1_iybvni6 wrote
I would expect that this union will be created. Of course , it will be one in name only , probably something like “ We will do our best to cooperate “. This way no-one has to actually do anything, Putin will not completely loose face and can parrot this “victory” in Russia. And Kazakh/Uzbek gas fields won’t start exploding for like no reason 🙂
chadenright t1_iyc0n2a wrote
Only a fool fights a war on two fronts and only a madman fights one on three. Putin could absolutely pull a Hitler here.
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Ultragreed t1_iybnmem wrote
As a member of Kazakhstan, I respectfully decline.