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S3HN5UCHT t1_ixtwfoq wrote

Hell yeah more jobs for americans

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Splatter_1 t1_ixu65uy wrote

Its more security. If china conquers taiwan we wont have to bend over to china then.

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OldGuto t1_ixuvnx6 wrote

Or not bother lifting a finger to actually help Taiwan if the Chinese do actually become properly aggressive. Especially when the fab is in your own country.

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WolfResponsible8483 t1_ixveagr wrote

The fab is probably screwed anyway if war breaks out. There are other reason for defending Taiwan.

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txdv t1_ixvmztu wrote

>Or not bother lifting a finger to actually help Taiwan if the Chinese do actually become properly aggressive. Especially when the fab is in your own country.

If the US says it will back Taiwan, it will.

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Erisagi t1_ixwg20o wrote

For now. Conditions could be different decades from now. Taiwan would be foolish to only rely on America's word and not look out for itself in the long term. We used to have a full defensive alliance with Taiwan and formally recognized them until that was changed under President Carter.

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Deicide1031 t1_ixx5o0a wrote

Taiwan is protecting its self by continuing to dominate the industry. America would definitely show up, and even if they didn’t other western and Asian nations are not gonna be chill with their major supplier being wiped out.

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Nikola_Turing t1_ixw7eao wrote

Taiwan matters far more to the U.S. than simply its semiconductors. Look up the first island chain. Being allied with all the pacific countries near China essentially allows the U.S to box China’s navy into the South China Seas.

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PublicFurryAccount t1_ixy7hvc wrote

That's a Chinese fantasy about their own security that has more to do with Mao-era weirdness than anything else.

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seksismart t1_ixvppaz wrote

The fab facilities will be the first ones to be destroyed to prevent take over.

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Deicide1031 t1_ixx5g4e wrote

Taiwan and the company wouldn’t have signed off on this unless they had another card up their sleeve. People are also assuming the United States will be able to produce the quantities that Taiwan can and that is 100% wrong. It’ll take a long time before they are as efficient. Taiwan will continue to be relevant for a long time to not just westerners but asia as well.

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Armand74 t1_ixw31w9 wrote

That’s not going to happen, the United States will defend Taiwan period!

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dcrm t1_ixwviec wrote

This was always the play.

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WonderSearcher t1_ixxu381 wrote

TSMC actually promised that the world's latest high-end fab making will still be only in Taiwan. By the time when the US starts the 3nm manufacture, Taiwan will start the 1 and 2 nm production. And 2 nm fab plant is already under construction in Hsinchu, Taiwan.

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Splatter_1 t1_ixzvxbc wrote

Then i guess Taiwan will still be defended. Which is good.

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jamiekyn t1_ixtwvse wrote

Most Americans probably don’t want those jobs lmao

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colorabro t1_ixujuh6 wrote

Bro you can work in semi fab with only a high school diploma and still make 70k+ with full benefits. These jobs are definitely sought after. So much money in the semiconductor industry

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Erisagi t1_ixwf69t wrote

Hold on, if it's that good then why did these jobs go overseas? These seem like jobs Americans would certainly want, that could have been created by American companies, and that are well complemented by American education.

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jamiekyn t1_ixush57 wrote

So much money but backbreaking work...and not that much money if you divide by the hours and overtime

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colorabro t1_ixux87y wrote

I wouldn’t call it backbreaking. It’s not as physically demanding compared to something like warehouse work, welding, or construction (speaking from experience). But yeah, the hours are rough. Gotta be OK with shift work and possibly overnight… a lot of people love the freedom of only working 3 or 4 days a week though

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TellMe2GetOffReddit- t1_ixtxnsk wrote

Dare say being a brand new fab a huge chunk of the production line will be autonomous and only need a small selection of skilled staff.

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fillytopper t1_ixtzjk9 wrote

No doubt this is probably will happen and some H1B visas to bring administration in.

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AstralElement t1_ixvc673 wrote

As someone who was in the semiconductor industry, I definitely want to go back to it. Those companies really do value their employees more than most companies.

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zipzoupzwoop t1_ixubs6o wrote

Let's make a push for those poor twitter employees to get these jobs after they've used up their three month severance.

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GossamerSolid t1_ixwb19z wrote

Imagine simping for a billionaire...

You're as dumb as Elon if you think those people will remain unemployed.

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_zenith t1_ixx0c4z wrote

LMAO they will be employed pretty much immediately if they wish

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