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lostmyquantumcat t1_iy7anvp wrote

Man these foreign agents seem to be hyper efficient, working in multiple autocratic countries simultaneously.. /s

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lalalaladididi t1_iy7aope wrote

You can only slaughter so many people. Eventually it will all rebound. Holding together so many people in a vice like grip can't happen in perpetuity. It will always eventually unravel.

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amewingcat t1_iy7bmh8 wrote

"Specially arranged train services" sounds awfully familiar....

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seekknowledge4ever t1_iy7cvy4 wrote

Just imagine if this type of authoritarian regime spreads out through the westernized democratic countries and YOU become a victim of these population control tactics.

Time to be very careful with all relationships with China, and put a stop to their expansion.

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mycall t1_iy7ujn4 wrote

Zero party systems are really single party systems. Single party systems don't work as they eventually corrupt. Two party systems are not much better regarding corruption. 3+ parties are less corrupt but less stable.

I'll take less stability over more corruption.

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zosaj t1_iy8ywns wrote

In case people aren't doing their research I just want to clarify, Radio Free Asia is absolutely a US State Media entity. Kind of interestingly, the reestablishment of it after the CIA abandoned their RFA propaganda network in the 1950's was pushed forth by then Senator Joe Biden.

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dreggers t1_iy8yy00 wrote

Democrats lose an election - rUsSiAn InTeRfErEnCe!

Other countries call out foreign interference - must be propaganda

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live-the-future t1_iy92scp wrote

Authoritarianism is violent cowardice. They are so afraid of ideas, of people expressing themselves, of being criticized, that they have to react with violent oppression and scapegoating. Sure, China, your CCP always knows best, is never corrupt (except when it is, must be foreigners), and always has the peoples' interests first and foremost and not retaining its own iron grip on power. 🙄

Propaganda, censorship of ideas and violent suppression of protests is not just a hallmark of authoritarianism, it's a requirement for them to stay in power. Violent cowards.

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lalalaladididi t1_iy946ws wrote

And where do you get that pearl of wisdom from.

The soviet union was held together with a vice like grip. Those that slipped through the net didn't matter because there weren't enough of them. These regimes always factor a few falling through the cracks into their tactics and equations.

Empirically, such regimes will always eventually crumble. That's not down to a few individuals falling through the cracks.

What's happening in China was always going to happen. However, I suspect its unlikely to bring down the regime. It will eventually fall but not just yet.

The West will do their best to accelerate the process but not for human rights reasons. They want access to the vast numbers of people etc so they can exploit them and expand their dubious influence. The same went for the soviet union. We didn't care about the peoples rights etc we only wanted access to so multinationals could exploit the people. And that's exactly what they have done.

Human rights cut profits and that's why multinational companies don't like them.

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GeneralIronsides2 t1_iy9i3xp wrote

The us Democratic Party and the Chinese communist party have absolutely zero to do with each other and shouldn’t be compared at all, this isn’t rocket science. I don’t know how you think they could be compared in a reasonable sense

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dreggers t1_iy9k9eb wrote

It’s comparable in how people view the concept of foreign interference when it comes to a party they support vs ones they do not. Having a double standard on the position is hypocritical

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dreggers t1_iy9qay7 wrote

you have no proof that there isn't collusion by foreign forces in stirring up protests in China. But from what we know about Arab Spring and decades of coups in South America, it's very likely there are foreign actors involved

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TheDWGM t1_iya568h wrote

What exactly do you propose is foreign interference? Did the CIA infiltrate the regional government and implement the lockdown measures which empowered the fire incident to happen? Did they somehow hire 10,000s of actors to show up and organise these protests? This is the problem with CCP mouthpieces, as well as other cases like Iran, they never point to anything concrete and instead just try to deflect to the United States whenever something they don't like happens.

Conversely it's pretty easy to point to what the Russian interference in the 2016 election was. They set up spam internet camps in places like Belarus and Thailand, paying people to propagate fake news and misinformation. There have been massive FB pages with millions of followers that have been outed as set up to do this. Even if US intelligence is somehow amplifying the calls on Chinese social media, which is probably impossible given that they are a locked down system unlike Western platforms with harsh government control of moderation, that is completely different from the analogy you are trying to make.

They are treated differently because anyone with a brain can see that they are empirically distinguished from one another.

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nooo82222 t1_iyb09tb wrote

I’m over here mad because Walmart isn’t 24:7 anymore. I can’t imagine wtf a Chinese civilian goes through

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CommercialTypical397 t1_iybsthj wrote

I'm not demonizing China lol I'm demonizing your shit government, headed by the turboloser Xi. You jump to conclusions, which is very typical for someone who chills for the CCP since they have no arguments And after WW2 the CCP murdered tens of millions of Chinese you realise that right?

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