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Nekommando t1_ixgpsx0 wrote

How the hell is this country a part of NATO

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Cobbertson t1_ixgq453 wrote

Because kicking any country out of NATO goes against the spirit of collective defense. Why defend anyone when it's politically inconvenient if you could just kick them out?

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Loltty t1_ixh1skt wrote

You can’t achieve collective defense if one link is ally with the enemy. Then it is a security issue for the rest of the defensive alliance, and should be removed.

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Nekommando t1_ixgq70w wrote

I was wondering how they got IN in the first place

Kicking them out would be a very slow process if not outright impossible

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gravballe t1_ixgv0jh wrote

It's even worse they got into EU..

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DeeHawk t1_ixgz2zm wrote

In 2004, 6 years before before Orban. Orban is the re-elected autocrat who is hellbent on stripping the country of any and all democratic values. (But still have "elections")

Not saying they were peachy before, but then again, who is.

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backflips_everyday t1_ixgxxcj wrote

Orban won’t live forever, but I can’t stand to see these fascist fucks. Orban wasn’t in power when they were added to either the EU or NATO.

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GreatWolf_NC t1_ixgzesp wrote

Yeah back then the country wasn't that bad, but again, even his supporters don't agree with him. He is literally a dictator in the sense that he doesn't do what the people want, he doesn't ask, just dors whatever he wants... I hope we can get him up on a lamppost soon

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bionioncle t1_ixhk27s wrote

> I was wondering how they got IN in the first place

Because country's stance and goal change with time and circumstance?

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Nekommando t1_ixhpj5t wrote

they were pretty pro Russia even back when they joined

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bionioncle t1_ixhxtik wrote

I just checked that Hungary joined NATO in 1999 and EU in 2003. Do you think Russia in 1999 the same as Russia 2014 or even 2008? And do you think that the relationship between Russia and NATO was the same as it is now. Nevertheless, is there any requirement that said "must be Russophobic" (since you use "pro-Russia" I think russophobic is the right word to use here) to join?

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Nekommando t1_ixhzz1a wrote

not necessarily Russophobic, at least not to the likes of Poland/Czech/Lithuania/ etc

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Johannes_P t1_ixs5c0p wrote

> I was wondering how they got IN in the first place

The government was more decent before Orban was elected.

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TrueMrSkeltal t1_ixj3y74 wrote

> goes against the spirit of collective defense

Sort of like everything Hungary has done under Orban?

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