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No_Mushroom351 t1_j24t62f wrote

He will eat zeh bug.

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Gromslav t1_j27fq1w wrote

He'd rather eat that 'sweet' bug doughnuts than bow to Putin. Not blaming him here...

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False_Fondant8429 t1_j25lyud wrote

Reparation payments should become the new deterrence weapon after nuclear weapon, so full power on the ruble to go south

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palmej2 t1_j26puk2 wrote

Not disagreeing, but wondering if increasing the deterrence cost of war might also somehow make nuclear options appear less unfavorable.

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canastrophee t1_j271wxc wrote

I mean, every list I've seen of the causes of WW2 has included economic instability worsened by punitive reparations for WW1. Ukraine needs to be compensated, but bleeding Russia dry to do it will probably only bring round 2 in thirty years as a new generation tries to secure resources.

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scummy_shower_stall t1_j27y7sp wrote

If they bleed the oligarchs’ foreign bank accounts dry, let them. There’s billions upon billions there.

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daniel_22sss t1_j29n5oe wrote

"WW2 has included economic instability worsened by punitive reparations for WW1"

I've always wondered - how "bad" those punitive reparations were, that Hitler managed to gather one of the strongest armies in the world with some of the best tech in the world?

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canastrophee t1_j29vdnq wrote

The answer is fascism! It's real easy to raise money when a) your citizenry and their families are punished for disobeying and b) you're targeting an established ethnic group for systematic extermination and can steal and/or sell off all of their accumulated wealth. See Japanese-Americans on the west coast circa WW2 for greater detail on the second point.

Fascism as a political ideology is inherently based in fear and hate. Economic fear is very easy to motivate into ethnic hate with a little application of job-stealing propoganda -- in fact, it's the popular choice for totalitarians everywhere, including Putin. Also, money isn't real, in the sense that money is an approximation we've all agreed to value. Germany still had mines, schools, factories, and a lot of hungry people willing to be soldiers in order to be sure their family could eat, alongside the true believers and opportunistic Nazis.

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SeaRaiderII t1_j24xqjm wrote

I mean Black rock said they will rebuild Ukraine. I guess everyone there is renting because the millions of homeowners will be coming back to nothing

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seattle_architect t1_j27rxox wrote

Black Rock is an assets management company.

They will manage funds and loans that will be given to Ukraine for rebuilding.

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scummy_shower_stall t1_j27ydak wrote

And then force Ukraine to default on those loans, thus taking over and forcing everybody to pay exorbitant prices to rent. I’m aware Ukraine needs the investments. But predatory management companies like BlackRock are not the best.

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autotldr t1_j24ho0y wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 73%. (I'm a bot)

> Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky confirmed Wednesday that his government will attend the meeting in Switzerland, and that he spoke with BlackRock Inc CEO Larry Fink again about financing the postwar reconstruction effort.

> According to Bloomberg, Zelensky also discussed the possibility of Italy contributing to the strengthening of Ukraine's air defences with Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni.

> Zelensky appeared via video at the previous meeting in May, when he compared his country to Israel in conversation with WEF chief Klaus Schwab.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Zelensky^#1 Ukraine^#2 itself^#3 meeting^#4 Ukrainian^#5

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Xaran1 t1_j273oea wrote

I initially read that as WWF instead of WEF, which significantly changes what I got from that headline.

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Meme_Turtle t1_j24x0p3 wrote

What happened to the reparation plans? I was under the impression Russia will foot the bill for the restoration of Ukraine. Not to mention the war is far from over and has reached the deadlock state.

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MSTRMN_ t1_j24xb5a wrote

There's not enough russian funds outside of russia to fully restore Ukraine and its economy. The total cost will probably go up to trillions of dollars.

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Meme_Turtle t1_j24y4h6 wrote

I am not talking about funds outside of Russia. I believe the plan was to control and tax revenue streams of Russian energy resources as the form of reparations. Which is much better than selling country to Blackrock.

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der_titan t1_j255srf wrote

The US paid nothing to Iraq or Vietnam. Neither Russia nor the US paid anything to Afghanistan.

The only time I can think an aggressor country was forced to pay reparations - post WW2 - was Iraq paying compensation to Kuwait. Given that was the result of a UN Security Council Resolution, I wouldn't count on Russia paying Ukraine a single ruble.

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Stoic_Vagabond t1_j276zxr wrote

Can you explain how Blackrock will "own" ukraine? Genuine question. I see many Americans comment with this talking point hard for me to comprehend how that would occur

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thisisillegals t1_j25lcus wrote

I understand the reasoning behind it but that isn't to dissimilar to what happened post WW1 w/Germany. That turned out well...

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The_og_habs729 t1_j24l2fl wrote

Hes still in a war why ask for post war funds if that time hasnt come. Or right before davos they will end the war and roll out that sweet new nwo

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MSTRMN_ t1_j24x70l wrote

>Hes still in a war why ask for post war funds if that time hasnt come.

Because stuff like this is usually arranged before hand to not waste time later

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SuzyCreamcheezies t1_j2773su wrote

It shows confidence in their military and the resolve of their people. It would also be foolish to only start planning after the war, leaving citizens without homes and infrastructure for even longer than needed.

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