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HoneyDickBalls t1_j1zz6vi wrote

What could Jordan realistically threaten Israel with?

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aaden08 t1_j206pjk wrote

He's just talking, they're allies with Israel

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Persianx6 t1_j22t2el wrote

He's giving a warning -- conflict will continue with Netanyahu. He's had nearly 15 years of being in power concurrent with Netanyahu, to make the assessment.

He's also responding to Hamas propaganda -- any push to limit Palestinian access to their holy sites will push the conflict to war, which... is true. As that's what led to the war the last time and this is specifically what Hamas is pushing, as they continue to try and make a bid to kick out Fatah in the West Bank.

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frosthowler t1_j2359p9 wrote

It won't ever push it to war. If Jordan scraps the peace treaty, Israel will seize the Temple Mount from the Jordanian Waqf, and give it to the House of Saud in exchange for peace.

Hussein would need to be out of his mind to give Israel such a sweet casus belli to change the caretaker of Al-Aqsa and secure peace with Saudi Arabia, which is much more useful than peace with Jordan. Jordan is on the receiving end in every way, including their water crisis which is entirely saved by Israel.

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Persianx6 t1_j235k07 wrote

He means war between Palestine and Israel, not war between Jordan and Israel. Jordan will never war with Israel again and you outlined the reasons why.

But you should add in that: war may also expose king of Jordan as being a national loser and fraud. He'll avoid war forever by result, there's nothing to gain.

Peace with Saudi Arabia probably exists under the table now. Only thing a treaty would do is announce it louder.

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phrostbyt t1_j23upop wrote

> and give it to the House of Saud in exchange for peace

I've been following Israeli politics my whole life and never even considered that a possibility until you posted it, what a novel concept

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aaden08 t1_j20j9ln wrote

Jordan is still on friendlier terms with Israel than a lot of other Arab countries. He's just being a politician and trying to appeal to his base which empathizes with Palestinian politics.

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plastikelastik t1_j22vwua wrote

He doesn't need to appeal to "his base" he's not a politician, he's a monarch.

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aaden08 t1_j22yzbh wrote

True but haven't we seen similar Arab leaders in that region who were equal in status get overthrown or deal with civil wars? Doubt he's scared of that, but he wants to seem like he cares about certain issues regardless. But Jordan isn't a threat to Israel anyway. We saw how the 6 day war went.

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aaden08 t1_j20rth4 wrote

? Jordan recognizes Israel and has a peace treaty and agreements on border disputes for decades.

Saudi has barely started to acknowledge the chance of normal relations with Israel.

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Elvtars426 t1_j202ep4 wrote

Another intifada. Not directly, of course, but it wouldn’t be at all difficult to light a spark of anger and let the violence commence.

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SsiSsiSsiSsi t1_j205k7d wrote

Jordan doesn’t have that sort of juice anymore, Iran drank their milkshake a long time ago.

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Persianx6 t1_j22ti4v wrote

The events this year in Jenin and the West Bank suggest there's definitely interest in such a thing, particularly with the fact that that group there is nearly areligious and not really an ideological faction but interested nonetheless in harming Israelis.

It has been a disastrous year for the Palestinians, which is saying something.

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Sin1st_er t1_j20r402 wrote

Jordan isn't necessarily weak, they have the entire Arab League behind them which have gotten stronger ever since their last conflict.

Also not all Diplomacy is backed by Military Power.

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RMS7246 t1_j22ues4 wrote

They're surrounded by enemy states - I'm sure they don't want more on that list lmfao

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Pilast OP t1_j20ilvt wrote

Getting the Americans to support them in the event of a crisis over the Temple Mount.

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