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Torifyme12 t1_j6b0etu wrote

Reply to comment by memus_dankus in Hundreds of climate activists were arrested in The Hague after blocking the A12 highway in both ways on Saturday afternoon in protest at government subsidies for fossil fuels such as oil and gas by DoremusJessup

I dunno plenty of Europeans were telling us we should just listen to what the people blocking the freeways here in the US said.

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I guess it's annoying when it's your freeway not someone else's

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memus_dankus t1_j6b0zka wrote

I didn’t say that and I’m not saying that now.

I’m just giving the reason why they were arrested. It doesn’t really effect me because I don’t live in The Hague and don’t even have a car. But personally I don’t think protestors should block roads for any reason.

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_carmimarrill t1_j6bh8dj wrote

So we only allow convenient protests then, what a firebrand you must be

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memus_dankus t1_j6bhtgp wrote

Oh, fuck off, I was only giving the reason why they were arrested. It doesn’t even matter what you think. As it turns out, Inciting people to do something that is illegal is also illegal by itself.

Blocking roads not only inconveniences people, it also endangers them. We either allow all protestors to block roads or we allow none. I’m going for the latter.

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whiteandyellowcat t1_j6capiy wrote

Demonstrating is allowed on public roads in the Netherlands, otherwise you could just protest on side walks. Next to this highway there was another road which emergency services could take.

The main reason for the blocking wasn't to block normal people, the road lies right in between the parliament and the ministry of economic affairs and climate.

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koreamax t1_j6bwg66 wrote

Only teenagers and unemployed people think disrupting normal people trying to make a living is a good way to protest

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MrTimscampi t1_j6c1z63 wrote

Because paid holidays, unemployment benefits and other social changes were brought by the kindness of the ruling class, through peaceful discussions, not through disruption and violence.

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koreamax t1_j6c2n9y wrote

You're advocating for violence to get things we already have?

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MrTimscampi t1_j6c5wzr wrote

I’m only responding to what you said. If our ancestors agreed with you, we’d have none of these.

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_carmimarrill t1_j6cqhxw wrote

I should note, I never said that occupying the road was a good way to protest. It might be, but it usually won’t be, that kind if thing is highly contextual. But I gotta say what an excellent way to shut down all nuance. “Only kids and poors would ever do this, but NORMAL people know better”. That’s gotta be the douchiest way to be anti-protester I’ve ever seen, one glance at the photos of the incident and obviously it isn’t just minors and the unemployed there. You will make an excellent propagandist one day

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idontagreewitu t1_j6c1gyx wrote

They also liked to criticize US border control policies until they started seeing high immigration numbers from the Middle East.

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