memus_dankus

memus_dankus t1_j6fby2c wrote

I’m Dutch for the record.

And most of us are sick of people blocking our infrastructure for their protests. So don’t try to speak for us.

I’m not ok with farmers doing it and I’m not ok with climate protestors doing it. And it’s certainly not something that should be normalised.

All crimes require similar procedures. It’s the punishments that are different.

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memus_dankus t1_j6dl4p0 wrote

You can be arrested for Inciting people to commit criminal behaviour.

If you were openly conspiring to do something illegal in the US and tried using social media to recruit people to help you, you’d also get a knock on the door.

Plenty of people get arrested for such things, it’s how we stop terrorism, assassinations, etc.

While blocking highways is not as bad as murder or terrorism, it’s still considered a major offense in most countries. But I’m sure that in this case the circumstances will be taken into account and these people won’t face any serious punishment.

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memus_dankus t1_j6d3r2w wrote

No it isn’t, I’m pretty sure most countries have laws against sabotaging critical infrastructure and for good reason.

They literally blocked one of the main arteries going into The Hague. It’s dangerous and irresponsible.

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memus_dankus t1_j6cmoh7 wrote

What do you think arrested means?

And I agree, the government is clearly not treating farmers and climate protestors equally but that still doesn’t have anything to do with the point I’m trying to make here.

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memus_dankus t1_j6bhtgp wrote

Oh, fuck off, I was only giving the reason why they were arrested. It doesn’t even matter what you think. As it turns out, Inciting people to do something that is illegal is also illegal by itself.

Blocking roads not only inconveniences people, it also endangers them. We either allow all protestors to block roads or we allow none. I’m going for the latter.

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memus_dankus t1_j6b98sq wrote

Can you give me a source?

Because article 162 of the Dutch code of law states this:

>Any person who willfully destroys, renders unusable or damages any work serving public or air traffic, obstructs any public land or waterway or defeats any safety measure taken with regard to such work or road, shall be punished: 1 a term of imprisonment not exceeding nine years or a fine of the fifth category, if this is likely to endanger the safety of traffic; 2 a term of imprisonment not exceeding fifteen years or a fine of the fifth category, if this is likely to endanger the safety of traffic and the act results in the death of someone.

Which seems pretty reasonable imo

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memus_dankus t1_j6b0zka wrote

I didn’t say that and I’m not saying that now.

I’m just giving the reason why they were arrested. It doesn’t really effect me because I don’t live in The Hague and don’t even have a car. But personally I don’t think protestors should block roads for any reason.

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