Wealthy people will continue to own AVs for personal use. The rest will migrate to primarily manufacturer owned fleets as it gets cheaper than owning.

One of the issues of the recall is making the car stop a little longer at at stop sign when nobody else is around. Another is slowing down a little earlier when there is a change in speed limit.

Its not that big a deal. It more about making sure it follows the letter of the law even when human drivers might fudge a bit more.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCLRPT-23V085-3451.PDF

Here is the recall in case anyone is interested. I doubt the update will take too long to sort out.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCLRPT-23V085-3451.PDF

eventually yes.

There is no consent required in a public place with public officials where there is no expectation of privacy.

I rather like the kia EV6.

They are also planning on doubling their number of fast chargers. I suspect the ones they open to non-teslas will be the less crowded ones. They aren't opening them all up.

>I don't believe it is a delay "of a couple months". This is the company that will have self driving by the end of the year for 6 years running.

I mean its February. Why wouldn't they open them up now that the government is handing out free money to do what they were planning on doing anyway?

>Jimmying into their system is no credit to Tesla. The adapters trick the chargers.

That's strange since Tesla sells on their website charging stations that work with non-EVs. But I guess Tesla doesn't get credit for that because ...reasons.

>Tesla also started to install J1772 ports (fewer than Tesla ports, but still) with their destination chargers at some sites (like hotels, etc.) after a while.

In other words they started doing last year what you said they didn't.

https://shop.tesla.com/product/j1772-wall-connec

Don't you think its likely that the the delay by a couple months of opening the network might have been because they knew this was coming down the pike?

Also there are already Tesla level 2 destination chargers open to non-tesla drivers with an adapter.

Wait, they are stopping production but no recall for the trucks already on the road? How does that work?

No kidding. I guess Hyundai and Kia are big enough advertisers that they decided to softball it.

Why wouldn't there be? There's a charge for tesla users. Do you think the energy is free?

The reason this is important is because tesla has a gigantic charging network and this will spur ev adoption.

That will get the last 10% that remain by then.

This wasn't a press release.

Tesla's 10.69 is pretty impressive, and its a generalized solution.

I'd say Tesla and waymo are in the lead.

Cuise and BYD likely a ways behind

Mercedes is way back.

90% of the time you will charge at home overnight. At the rate things are going, nobody will be foolish enough to build a new gas station. in 10 years most new cars will be EV. In 20 years you will have a hard time buying a new ICE vehicle and gas stations will begin disappearing.

At least its not the batteries again.

I've never heard of this website before.

It's 82K for electric trucks.

Decline on what metric? Their production and sales have risen by 50% for 3 years running. They have two gigantic factories just beginning to ramp production meaning they will continue to increase production by 50% for at least the next 3 years. They have two new product lines coming in the next 6 months.

What has happened is though is that Tesla has gone from the underdog upstart to an existential threat to several markets. Hence the astroturfing and the divorcing from reality in this sub.

Seriously this sub is so divorced from reality.

OH NO! How will Tesla survive with only 50% growth year on year?

Tesla is more profitable than Ford or GM without any government subsidies at all.

What a dumb title. If you have a 100% marketshare and someone produces 1 item your marketshare has gone down even if you triple your total sales.

The important metric is the Tesla's share of the total automarket and that continues to rise very quickly.