DeeJayXD
DeeJayXD t1_ivey70d wrote
Reply to comment by jiimmyyy in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
Yes.
Reason operates by the use of complex series of ‘ought’ statements—standards, biases, criteria, etc.—to discern what is acceptable; the appeal to reason itself rests on the claim that, in our selection of evidence (or just in general), we ought to be reasonable.
DeeJayXD t1_ivewz7w wrote
Reply to comment by jiimmyyy in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
As well you should; but, that just proves my point.
DeeJayXD t1_ivc0mfo wrote
Reply to comment by jiimmyyy in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
How could you ever get an ‘is’ statement without ‘ought’ statements to dictate what you accept as evidence?
DeeJayXD t1_ivf0lsd wrote
Reply to comment by jiimmyyy in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
Good riposte; but, does that argument not depend on the claim that our actions ought to be consistent with our values?
There’s also a good discussion to be had there exploring the question of why you/we value reason (and whether we ought to do so), just as an aside.