Evening_Presence_927

Evening_Presence_927 t1_j9xmoo7 wrote

Lmao if this isn’t the most echo chamber-y comment of all time on here. You can’t throw a stick without hitting a comment about how people aren’t paying attention to the real cases of anti-semitism being perpetrated by those (read: black) people, when statistically, they aren’t even the supermajority of anti-semitic incidents.

Gtfo of here, fascist scum. You’re embarrassing yourself by treating Fox News like news instead of the propaganda it is.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j9m96nk wrote

> No, you said we could throw a lot of funding at public schools without giving any further details

I literally gave further details right after that. So you really are that blind.

> You've also made claims elsewhere that per-pupil spending in NYC is expected to be high because... the city is big. You don't seem to understand that spending efficiency isn't supposed to plummet as you scale the system up.

That’s exactly how it happens, though, especially in a student body as big as it is.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j9m8yjf wrote

> If it takes diverting the best and promising students and funds into charters since more students are switching to them then yes the charter budget should increase for NYC DOE to realize they need to get their act together then so be it.

Lmao that’s never going to convince the DOE officials. They’re getting paid either way.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j9lb4qt wrote

> our education budget is like 40% of our city budget...

Again, we’re the largest city in the country. I’d be surprised if it wasn’t. If you’re still pissy about it, lobby the city to raise taxes and further fund the system.

> plenty of higher cost of living and larger metro areas around world spend way less vs we do % wise.

All of those places have national control of education though, so thanks for the advocacy for further federal control of education in this country 😉

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j9laa2n wrote

> I support charter schools only to the extent that they allow parents to pressure and force public education officials to acknowledge this problem and actually address it by removing violent and disruptive students from the population of students that are already motivated to learn.

But if they charters don’t take them, where are they going to go? Federal law requires minors to go to school.

This seems like a problem that would fix itself if we, y’know, invested in public schools.

> Yes, you are considerably out of touch with reality on nearly every topic you give your opinion for in this sub.

Lmao nice ad hominem. Really shows you people are scraping the bottom of the barrel argumentatively.

> Yes, they are

[citation needed]

> Throwing money at kids disruptive, antisocial, or violent kids in the middle of the general population of students doesn't magically fix behavioral problems. They need much more direct interventions with much smaller class sizes and, likely, remedial instruction. Fixing those behavioral problems takes time and cannot be done in a normal classroom without being massively disruptive.

Did you.. not read what I put down? I literally said we could do that in the public school system. You might wanna get your eyes checked, buddy.

> Good luck with your hand-wavy ideas.

You literally suggested the same thing, so speak for yourself, Mr accidental progressive policy.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j9l44wl wrote

Overfunded how? Did you forget we live in the largest metropolitan area in the country? I’d be more shocked if we didn’t have this amount of money for a student body this big. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t continually invest in it. Whatever happened to the free market with you people?

> View it from parents perspective especially the poor underserving communities. Continue sending their kids to the failing non screened public they too came from or take their chances with the charter in their neighborhood. ofc many will want the later.

Imagine those same people’s’ reactions when their kids come out no better and that they were just royally scammed through their tax dollars.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j9kzyt0 wrote

That’s such a counterintuitive method though.

Our schools are struggling, so instead of giving them some administrative TLC, we… throw the money at schools that aren’t statistically any better at giving kids a good education and aren’t accountable to anyone? All you’ve accomplished is made everything worse without any avenue for making things better.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j9kuzoz wrote

> Yes we do. They have terrible lives at home, often with parents that don't love them, neglect them, and even abuse them

And diverting money away from the public school system is going to help them… how?

> Yes, you can, and it saves the education of all the remaining children.

And you call progressives out of touch with reality. Lmao

> You don't put them in prison, but you don't leave them in an environment free to ruin everyone else's life (which is how important education is).

1.) literally nobody is advocating for that.

2.) that’s what extra investment in school systems will help with, though. It allows schools to fund extracurricular activities and clubs, provide after school care, give kids tutoring programs to help them along.

Christ, how are you people this shortsighted?

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