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GetOutOfNATO t1_izruxhf wrote

Reply to comment by soldforaspaceship in Healthcare workers in England experience PTSD at twice the rate of the general public. NHS staff have diagnosable mental health conditions, and are likely be functionally impaired, increasing the likelihood of poor care delivery, and other undesirable outcomes for themselves and others by Wagamaga

>Nearly everyone in the UK supports the NHS and would pay more taxes to fund it further. No one wants to move away from Universal Healthcare.

Except the exact opposite is happening, out of economic necessity. Because it doesn’t work.

>You'd have to be insane to consider it.

People are insane because they don’t want to be forced to pay for terrible underfunded government-run healthcare that they might not even use?

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GetOutOfNATO t1_izl92cy wrote

Reply to comment by more_beans_mrtaggart in Healthcare workers in England experience PTSD at twice the rate of the general public. NHS staff have diagnosable mental health conditions, and are likely be functionally impaired, increasing the likelihood of poor care delivery, and other undesirable outcomes for themselves and others by Wagamaga

If you vote for someone who wants to defund healthcare, then obviously it wasn’t a dealbreaker for you. I don’t accept your narrative that elected officials don’t represent the people who voted for them.

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GetOutOfNATO t1_izl08xr wrote

Reply to comment by more_beans_mrtaggart in Healthcare workers in England experience PTSD at twice the rate of the general public. NHS staff have diagnosable mental health conditions, and are likely be functionally impaired, increasing the likelihood of poor care delivery, and other undesirable outcomes for themselves and others by Wagamaga

If that’s true then why do they keep voting for politicians who defund it?

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GetOutOfNATO t1_izjtair wrote

Reply to Healthcare workers in England experience PTSD at twice the rate of the general public. NHS staff have diagnosable mental health conditions, and are likely be functionally impaired, increasing the likelihood of poor care delivery, and other undesirable outcomes for themselves and others by Wagamaga

One more reason to avoid universal healthcare. It just collapses under its own weight when voters inevitably decide to defund it.

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GetOutOfNATO t1_izj76kb wrote

Reply to comment by dankinator420 in Gun stockpile in hospital closet leads to $63K in fines from NJ health dept. by J-W-L

>But there's no correlation to free healthcare and obesity so your initial point is still wrong.

How do you know?

>You say you disagree but what follows has nothing to do with my point. Every year we have a push for healthy eating in the uk.

Yes it does, because what governments promote as healthy eating is actually unhealthy. Further contributing to the problem.

> I will admit that funding is slowly drying up for the nhs but that has far more to do with companies lobbying for an american based healthcare system.

No it’s because your voters elect politicians that starve NHS funding in favor of more politically expedient spending. Universal healthcare doesn’t work because the democratic mob is greedy.

>In my experience that isn't what actually happens though. In for profit healthcare, solving problems isn't profitable and therefore rarely happens. It's much better to mislead the consumer and give short term solutions.

Nah, for profit healthcare has continuously lead the way in technological and productive advancements for centuries. What you’re describing can only happen if market competition is stifled, like under socialism where the state has monopoly control.

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GetOutOfNATO t1_izj3cic wrote

Reply to comment by dankinator420 in Gun stockpile in hospital closet leads to $63K in fines from NJ health dept. by J-W-L

>So can you explain why america has a higher obesity rate per capita despite having one of the most expensive healthcare systems? In theory what you say can make sense but that simply isn't the reality of the situation.

It’s not obvious because there are also tons of other variables that affect whether or not a person gets fat. We could spend all day talking about them.

>Having universal healthcare causes governments to make more of an effort towards healthy eating,

I disagree, government nutritional recommendations are another reason western society is weak and fat.

If socialists can’t accomplish their goal of getting people to eat healthier and it becomes too expensive for the state, then they just cut funding to the “universal” healthcare system so a lot of people don’t get the treatment they need.

>where as a for profit health system actually causes monetary gain from obesity. This causes cases of misleading information when it comes to healthcare and raises the rates of obesity.

What’s wrong with a for-profit healthcare system continuously researching and developing ways to treat complications from obesity?

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