Okay but much of the rhetoric that’s being pushed right now is tied to language often used by groups like the Black Hebrew Israelites and Nation of Islam which aren’t even in the same Universe ideologically as the groups you mention.

Not OP, nor do I work at The Ashford or have any connection to it, but I do like their wings and it's a great spot for Sunday football.

This sub has had an anti-Ashford circle jerk for years now but here they are packed out every weekend - it's almost as if some people do like it and can speak positively about it without having any sort of connection to it.