^^where ^^joke

>I don't believe that banning certain styles of guns is going to stop anything, nor that banning all guns is fair or right.

It will stop something, but not everything. True, it isn't fair or right, that's why I'm against it. Gun control legislation however would be a huge improvement. Things like universal bgc and closing existing loopholes is sensible, but even those are rarely voted for because weapon manufacturers would lose a percentage. And they own quite a few politicians.

Just because something can't be 100% fixed right now doesn't mean it can't be improved, even if in steps. Perfect is the enemy of good.

I'm just explaining that, to catholics, yes it is cannibalism.

Sorry not just doctrine, it is catholic dogma. Established as doctrine by the Fourth Council of the Lateran in 1215, and in 1551 the Council of Trent declared it dogma. It is essential to the faith, but you don't have to be a catholic.

>Yea ok but the type of "mass shooting" that mostly contributes to that 2 per day is not what anyone thinks of when you say "mass shooting". It's not what most people are afraid of if they fear a "mass shooting".

How so? If 4 people were shot near me, I'd definitely think of the term "mass shooting".

>And then everything they do here with legislation ignores the vast majority of the actual problem. Illinois just banned "assault weapons" at least temporarily (will be struck down in courts), completely ignoring that the guns they classified as assault weapons are used in a tiny percentage of gun crime in Illinois.

>If people actually cared about gun violence in the US, they would target the weapons used in the vast majority of gun crime. Or, and maybe this is a crazy idea, they should try to figure out why people are doing this now and not in the past and fix those things. These "assault weapons" have been available in the US for many many decades. They did not magically turn people into monsters recently, so what did?

Precisely. Many politicians simply don't want to stop it.

By Catholic doctrine, it is not symbolism. The Eucharist offering literally becomes his body and blood through Transubstantiation.

So yes, cannibalism in their eyes.

4 or more people shot seems perfectly fitting as a definition for a mass shooting.

Regardless of total number, the international study -using same criteria- still points to the US having a third of the world's mass shootings. While only having 4.25% of the world population.

I think the main difference lies in quantity. Mass shootings tend to be rare. But in the US, they averaged nearly 2 per day in the past few years. That's an enormous number.

On top of that, most countries seem to want to do something about reducing such events. In the US there is an entire major political party bought and paid for by a lobby group that encourages such shootings. Looking in from the outside, it seems pretty insane.

We had a mass shooting in 1987 and in 2014. 7 and 4 people were killed, respectively.

Edit: we also had 2 terrorist bombings in 2011 and 2016, as well as a mass knife stabbing in 2009. Not sure if that counts.