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Head_Ebb_5993 t1_iyyy2f1 wrote

Reply to comment by SoylentRox in bit of a call back ;) by GeneralZain

But that's obvious straw man i wasn't and we weren't talking about AI , but AGI , Just because somewhere in AI industry are money doesn't imply that concept of AGI is valid and will be there in few years

PhDs with +1 million sallary or what ? That seems like the biggest BS I've ever heard

And you can be skeptic no matter your salary , if you have expertise in the field , I don't understand how your salary is in any way relevant to your crtique

You really seem to treat this as a religion and not science

I will look at your sources maybe tommorow , because I am going to sleep , but just from skimming I am already skeptical

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Head_Ebb_5993 t1_iyyu8wr wrote

Reply to comment by SoylentRox in bit of a call back ;) by GeneralZain

How exactly outdated ? enlighten me , ideally with sources. Because I don't think so

Edit : also I am rather skepticall that there are any people who work in any way with neuroscience and AI , and from all discussion with actuall people in the subject I've realized that AGI isn't even taken seriously at the moment , it's just sci-fi

In all seriousness , people write essays on why AGIs are actually impossible , even though that's little bit extreme position for me , but not a contrarian in scientific consensus

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Head_Ebb_5993 t1_iyysfdb wrote

Reply to comment by SoylentRox in bit of a call back ;) by GeneralZain

Is this some kind of cult ? Or religion ? I know what is singularity , just because it sounds simple doesn't matter , because you underestimate how hard it is to get to that level , when we can't even practically define what is intelligence... and don't even dare to define stuff like concioussnes , you are treating this stuff more like a religion then science

Cool we had first drawing of neuron in 1870 and we still have no idea how brain properly works , we have problems to measure brain activity precisly enough to even begin to ponder questions of how brain properly works , like the most interesting stuff that I can think of is that we can make AI that can read your mind , but it requires a lot of training and has to be done to pre-chosen words , also it usually doesn't have the best error rate , FDVR compared to that is like star wars space ships to planes

2300-2400 was my optimistic guess , but in reality i am rather skepticall that there will ever even be something like that , if you won't be able to do it safely without risking brain damage or altering brain too much then it will be just more practicall to use other easier means we have today , it might be in year 2800

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Head_Ebb_5993 t1_iyyld9j wrote

guys chill , I am reading this subreddit and it seems like random people saying that in 2030 there will be AGIs and stuff , while in reality we don't even remotely know how to approach problems like that and it's practically pure sci-fi at the moment , there probably won't be anything like that in our lifetimes ...

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Head_Ebb_5993 t1_iyyknlh wrote

Reply to comment by blxoom in bit of a call back ;) by GeneralZain

nah that's toooooooooooooooooo optimistic , if we mean the same things by FDVR, then I don't expect anything like FDVR in my lifetime , maybe in 2300-2400 and that's still rather optimistic guess , neuroscience is not that easy , we know practically nothing about brain , like even neuralink pretty much just repeated old experiments without setting any new boundries , we are nowhere near to even talk about FDVR and it's very hard to make progress in neuroscience .

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