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Submitted by Hypx t3_10pr4iv in Futurology
Hypx OP t1_j6c9mf5 wrote
Reply to comment by ajmmsr in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
I'm guessing a very slow leak out. It will make sense to have multiple redundancies, so at the very least you won't have a sudden release of hydrogen.
Hypx OP t1_j66p3d1 wrote
Reply to comment by Faroutman1234 in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
> Is active cooling required? “No,” says Brunner. “The insulation we use is enough to keep the system cold. When you drive the truck, you discharge cold gas from the insulated tank which cools down the tank by itself — this is simply thermodynamics. And even if you make a warm filling, you drive again, and it is cooled down again and gets back into the high-density regions of the operating range. So, we never need to actively cool, but instead the system cools itself by being used and by discharging hydrogen.”
So apparently no active cooling needed.
Hypx OP t1_j65vug4 wrote
Reply to comment by TheAnonFeels in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Which is stuff I admitted from the very first post. Yes, it can ignite. With an ignition source. Yes, it is dangerous, but less so than gasoline.
But of course you went off with multiple posts of pure spam and fearmongering before admitting that there is no real danger.
You're plainly trolling at this point. Time to stop and move on.
Hypx OP t1_j65und1 wrote
Reply to comment by TheAnonFeels in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Then your posts are total gibberish. You are trying to say something while admitting that you aren't trying to make a point at all.
There is nothing to comprehend in your posts. It's just word spam.
Hypx OP t1_j65tes6 wrote
Reply to comment by TheAnonFeels in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
If you are admitting that gasoline is not safer, then what's the point of this conversation?
Hypx OP t1_j65re8i wrote
Reply to comment by TheAnonFeels in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
And it's all just bullshit. Hydrogen is lighter than air. It doesn't have time to stay mixed. It's literally what they showed in the video.
Like I said, you are substituting reality with your own imagination here.
Hypx OP t1_j65qi2x wrote
Reply to comment by TheAnonFeels in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Again, you need an ignition source. And for an explosion you need a proper fuel mix. In reality, it will just float away immediately in most cases. A fire would hardly be dangerous compared to what a gasoline fire looks like. You're entirely ignoring actual data.
Like I said, you are just fearmongering. You already are in more danger driving a regular car.
Hypx OP t1_j65ovnu wrote
Reply to comment by TheAnonFeels in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
You still need an ignition source for a fire. Not to mention how fast it leaves the vehicle. It also doesn’t explode. You are basically ignoring the videos and substituting your own imagination here.
A balloon isn’t a fuel tank. It is already premixed with air. Even sugar will explode in the right setting.
Again, it is safer than gasoline. This is not a debate anymore. The evidence already made this clear.
Hypx OP t1_j65mak5 wrote
Reply to comment by TheAnonFeels in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
It most likely won’t ignite at all even when vented. There needs to be an ignition source. In most cases, the hydrogen just dissipates completely.
You’re simply ignoring the other side of the video: What happens when a gasoline cars catches on fire. That is significantly more dangerous. And we already accept that danger. It’s pointless to fearmonger about something less dangerous.
Hypx OP t1_j65efnj wrote
Reply to comment by IGetNakedAtParties in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
This is futurology. You're just being a jerk while missing the point.
Hypx OP t1_j65d048 wrote
Reply to comment by IGetNakedAtParties in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
But no talked about what is better right now.
You're just making a big fuss while basically accepting my point.
Hypx OP t1_j65ckam wrote
Reply to comment by TheAnonFeels in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
It's lighter than air. It won't stay very long. And no, that's not how a hydrogen flame would work.
Hypx OP t1_j63lfp9 wrote
Reply to comment by BoredCop in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Explosions technically imply detonation. But if you are going to call all big fires explosions, then gasoline explodes too. You cannot have it both ways.
Anyways, it's already proven that hydrogen is safer than gasoline because people have actually set them on fire before. You're just fearmongering on this.
Hypx OP t1_j63kvb5 wrote
Reply to comment by BoredCop in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
And yet it is fact that it is safer than gasoline. This is not actually a debate here. People have set both on fire and gasoline is a lot more dangerous:
Hypx OP t1_j63kn89 wrote
Reply to comment by BoredCop in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Fires can have pressure waves, but that is not an explosion. And if you do call it an explosion, than there are thousands of gasoline explosions all time.
Hypx OP t1_j63g264 wrote
Reply to comment by BoredCop in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Hydrogen isn't propane FYI. It is a lighter than air gas. Propane is heavier than air.
Hypx OP t1_j63fugu wrote
Reply to comment by IGetNakedAtParties in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Are the batteries in your EV free in this example? We're talking about a hypothetical hydrogen car that is effectively identical to a conventional car in basic material needs.
Also, this is not liquid hydrogen. You should read the article.
Hypx OP t1_j63f2ho wrote
Reply to comment by IGetNakedAtParties in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Even after just now, after a 80% increase in energy density? You do realize that at this density, a few tanks the size of scuba tanks will easily get you 300 miles of range in a hydrogen car? Volume wise, it's basically the same as a gasoline tank in a conventional car. So pretty vast amounts of cost is coming out of that hydrogen car.
And yet you're so certain that this can't be cheaper...
Hypx OP t1_j63dwrf wrote
Reply to comment by BoredCop in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
You one caught on fire? These things aren't report very accurately.
Hypx OP t1_j63d0et wrote
Reply to comment by BoredCop in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Liquid fuels are considered more dangerous because they burn in place. It is not just a "non-explosive puddle." It is a carpet of flames if it ignites. This is a very dangerous situation since it can trap someone in a car during a fire.
A gas, especially one that is much lighter than air, will quickly dissipate. It will have a much lower chance of fire and any fire that does happen will not stay in place. The danger is only during the moments when gas is leaking.
Hypx OP t1_j63csvv wrote
Reply to comment by IGetNakedAtParties in Cryo-compressed hydrogen, the best solution for storage and refueling stations? by Hypx
Cost would be a different subject. No one brought that up until you did just now.
Also, you should expect cost to come down for any technology. Especially one that is radically superior to what came before it.
Hypx OP t1_j6lxvpj wrote
Reply to DARPA wants aircraft that can maneuver with a radically different method by Hypx
> On January 17, DARPA announced the next steps of a program to create an aircraft designed to fly entirely on control surfaces that lack the moving parts that airplanes typically use to maneuver. DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, specializes in blue-sky visions, investing in research towards creating new possibilities for technology. In this program, it seeks to change how aircraft alter direction in the sky.
An airplane that can fly without control surfaces could have higher performance, less noise, improved efficiency, and less radar signature compared to a conventional aircraft that uses flaps and ailerons. It could be a significant step forward over what is possible with current aircraft.