IactaEstoAlea
IactaEstoAlea t1_je198v3 wrote
Reply to comment by Pay08 in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
>Isn't that unofficial?
Nope, it gets quoted in Skyrim by Heimskr (the Talos priest preaching in Whiterun)
>That's a bit more credible, provided you believe that Markan Camoran (or whatever his name was) is really thousands of years old.
You don't need to take everything in the commentary as truth, but there is little reason to doubt the bit about CHIM and the transformation of Cyrodiil jungles
IactaEstoAlea t1_je11ug2 wrote
Reply to comment by Pay08 in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
>Did he achieve CHIM?
Yes
>You have suffered for me to win this throne, and I see how you hate jungle. Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you.
From The Many-Headed Talos
Also:
>CHIM. Those who know it can reshape the land. Witness the home of the Red King Once Jungled
From the Mythic Dawn commentaries Vol. 3
As to what the nature of godhood, Talos' own godhood, its relation with the "planets" and CHIM vs "true" godhood; well, we just don't have a simple definitive answer
Also, we don't know how or who did it for Talos to ascend
IactaEstoAlea t1_je10nhi wrote
Reply to comment by Lost-Saint in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
Basically, apotheosis caused by realizing the true nature of the Elder Scrolls universe and simultaneously having a sense of self strong enough to not get retconned out of existence by the knowledge
IactaEstoAlea t1_je0ri1c wrote
Reply to comment by SexyOldManSpaceJudo in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
Actually no, that is what the elves believe and that is in part because of their hatred of humanity and mortality
Talos achieved CHIM which makes him divine by his (or rather "their") own merit
IactaEstoAlea t1_ixr7ai2 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Emperor Charles V's secret code cracked after five centuries by IslandChillin
Nonsense! They were family!
> My cousin Francis and I are in perfect accord. He wants Milan and so do I.
Charles V, HRE
IactaEstoAlea t1_je1cabr wrote
Reply to comment by Pay08 in TIL that in Chinese Folk Religion, a mortal human being could ascend into godhood not through the decisions of a clergy/church, but by the sheer number of people who believe that their extraordinary achievements led to apotheosis, which forced Confucian/Taoists clerics to canonize a person as a God. by Khysamgathys
>A part of it does, which might be a reference than actual canon.
To be clear, the part that is in Skyrim is:
>Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you.
Which is precisely the part about Talos having achieved CHIM